This incidentally casts a whole new light on the matter of Ishamael "pretending" to be the Great Lord. After the signs of merging in TOM (and by this I mean stuff like Moridin now hearing the DO directly in his mind, even outside the Pit of Doom), I wonder more and more if there is a physical aspect to this (and the link to Rand suggests there is one (it seems the TP.. ie: the DO, leaped through Moridin to latch himself at Rand's mind at Shadar Logoth, in effect catching Moridin in between(, and so does the "madness" derived from the Taint), and if there's one it could mean it wasn't madness that made Ishamael "half believe" he was the Great Lord. It rather suggests Ishamael was so far gone in the True Power before his death that he shared his mind with Shai'tan in a way very reminescent of Rand and LTT, and much the same way, it happened to Ishamael that Shai'tan kind of poke for him, that his words expressed Shai'tan's thoughts. This, in turn, might explain why Shai'tan created Shaidar Haran as a substitute, after he lost Ishamael as his "vehicle", and wouldn't get him back in this role for quite some time, until Moridin had used the True Power enough... which in turn might explain, as Demandred noticed, that Moridin is really going over the top in his use of the TP since his transmigration: lost ground to regain before the LB. We also know that Shaidar Haran is very limited in the ways he can interact with the world. Moridin makes a much better flesh and blood vehicle for Shai'tan. Of course, it would mean the whole thing about a Nae'blis is a sham, a temporary solution before Shai'tan was back in Moridin's mind to "guide him". If Shai'tan "knows" Ishamael as intimately as sharing many of his thoughts, and seeing through his eyes (or the absence thereof), it explains very well why he trusts Ishamael so much. In effect, Moridin would be all but mindtrapped by Shai'tan.
I think you're onto something and correct. Further evidence you could use to back up the Moridin/DO merger would be when Lews Therin touched saidar to the Dark One subsequently tainting all of saidar at the end of the last Age. If the DO can touch it, he can taint it/project himself onto it...
The significance of 23 stars (TOM Spoilers)
- 14/12/2010 11:48:55 PM
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It would be a first...
- 15/12/2010 02:46:33 AM
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- 15/12/2010 04:39:17 AM
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I think people aren't giving Egwene enough credit.
- 15/12/2010 04:59:09 AM
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She's not bringing everyone for a discussion, but for leverage to force him to change his mind.
- 19/12/2010 09:54:49 PM
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- 20/12/2010 01:50:39 AM
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- 20/12/2010 01:50:39 AM
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- 20/12/2010 04:37:24 AM
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- 20/12/2010 04:37:24 AM
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Sadly, the thing you reference four times isn't actually anywhere in the book.
- 29/12/2010 03:17:15 AM
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+1
- 29/12/2010 07:10:41 AM
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I think the Tower needs a singular leader, though you may be right.
- 29/12/2010 12:51:19 PM
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- 15/12/2010 12:43:49 PM
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Dear lord, you wrote the Egwene haters' ultimate fantasy right there
- 19/12/2010 01:41:55 AM
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One problematic issue...This assumes the Dark One cannot hold himself back once the Seals are broken
- 15/12/2010 07:57:53 AM
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Err, it's the other way around
- 15/12/2010 09:00:38 AM
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I see. It's the same thing, really, just looking at it from the opposite perspective...
- 15/12/2010 09:14:22 AM
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Don't you know it's all about the posturing
- 15/12/2010 09:40:15 AM
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agreed, it'd also be a terribly boring book to read if the DO was defensive
- 15/12/2010 09:56:37 AM
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It's more that you take it out of context
- 15/12/2010 11:32:36 AM
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So then...
- 15/12/2010 06:35:02 PM
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- 16/12/2010 03:39:19 AM
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Re: So then...
- 16/12/2010 08:11:37 AM
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The DO will be forced to act because breaking the seals is inherently an attempt to seal the bore...
- 15/12/2010 08:51:38 PM
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While I agree overall, I think this is a case where Rand/TDR mistakes his role
- 15/12/2010 05:37:25 PM
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I think Egwene is successful and Rand has to go to the Seanchan for female channeler assistance
- 18/12/2010 12:47:54 AM
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Egwene's dream seems a little more personal than that
- 18/12/2010 04:55:37 AM
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Yes
- 18/12/2010 07:57:35 AM
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Actually, I think Tuon will capture her, and then release her. *NM*
- 18/12/2010 02:47:42 PM
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- 18/12/2010 02:48:40 PM
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wow. I'm not an egwene hater but I will if the freaking idiot sitters & she are the stars
- 15/12/2010 12:02:12 PM
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I wish
- 16/12/2010 08:29:23 PM
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That's just it: Egwene is not only wrong, she's narratively wrong.
- 19/12/2010 11:30:35 PM
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Man, that's the best take on Egwene I have ever read.
- 20/12/2010 12:38:07 AM
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Re: That's just it: Egwene is not only wrong, she's narratively wrong.
- 20/12/2010 04:39:57 PM
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Wish I'd read this sooner, 'cos I agree on several points.
- 29/12/2010 03:38:59 AM
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Re: Wish I'd read this sooner, 'cos I agree on several points.
- 29/12/2010 07:32:49 AM
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It seems an odd oversight, yes; I can't even recall her being Delved when the truth was revealed.
- 29/12/2010 12:40:00 PM
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Ensure this value has at most 100 characters (it has 101).
- 29/12/2010 03:00:22 PM
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Ah, good point; Rand might have to do the job himself.
- 29/12/2010 06:43:44 PM
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More likely to be Flinn.
- 29/12/2010 08:18:19 PM
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Maybe, once he knows the signs and techniques.
- 30/12/2010 03:10:27 PM
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Not sure if Rand had seized the source yet - he wouldn't have wanted to do it in front of Ramshalan
- 30/12/2010 03:15:43 PM
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Not only must I agree with you, but I think you've divined Egwenes ultimate destiny.
- 29/12/2010 03:41:59 AM
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