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I think Egwene is successful and Rand has to go to the Seanchan for female channeler assistance Logain Send a noteboard - 18/12/2010 12:47:54 AM
My theory is that Egwene is successful in convincing enough people to stop Rand that he has to go to the Seanchan for help. I think that in demand for female channelers to assist Rand in resealing the bore that in return Tuon demands that Rand submit to her authority, e.g. publicly acknowledge her and bow before her (that sort of thing). In addition, I think Rand demands the Seanchan covenant not to attack further nations in the Westlands and demands that the Seanchan not take female channelers except in the lands they already occupy now.

Then Rand, with the help of Seanchan female channelers, defeats the Dark One, saving humankind. This also happens to fulfill Egwene's dream of being rescued by a Seanchan. If the Seanchan hadn't helped Rand nobody would have beaten the DO and Egwene would end up dead. Thus, the Seanchan saved her (and the rest of the world). At some point after the DO is resealed, the White Tower and the rest of the world come to the knowledge that they almost caused the destruction of the world by opposing Rand's plan and supporting Egwene. They are all thankful to the Seanchan and this is enough for them to support the peace that Rand negotiated with the Seanchan.

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I think people aren't giving Egwene enough credit. - 15/12/2010 04:59:09 AM 1188 Views
She's not bringing everyone for a discussion, but for leverage to force him to change his mind. - 19/12/2010 09:54:49 PM 1110 Views
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Re: - 20/12/2010 04:37:24 AM 942 Views
Huh? - 20/12/2010 05:09:39 AM 1047 Views
I find the theory - 20/12/2010 09:18:34 AM 949 Views
That's a new one to me - 20/12/2010 09:45:09 AM 1035 Views
Your theory is very unlikely - 20/12/2010 09:50:26 AM 1041 Views
If it was a plant, why would it be so oblique? - 29/12/2010 07:22:58 AM 911 Views
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That's not true. - 21/12/2010 02:22:50 AM 1183 Views
Sadly, the thing you reference four times isn't actually anywhere in the book. - 29/12/2010 03:17:15 AM 1166 Views
+1 - 29/12/2010 07:10:41 AM 1074 Views
Don't take this the wrong way, but I think I love you. (edited) - 29/12/2010 06:43:32 PM 1330 Views
Ah, if only I could sell the concept of sister-wives.... - 29/12/2010 07:09:56 PM 989 Views
Re: It would be a first... - 15/12/2010 12:43:49 PM 1547 Views
Dear lord, you wrote the Egwene haters' ultimate fantasy right there - 19/12/2010 01:41:55 AM 1064 Views
Don't think of use as Egwene haters... - 19/12/2010 04:32:11 AM 1008 Views
One problematic issue...This assumes the Dark One cannot hold himself back once the Seals are broken - 15/12/2010 07:57:53 AM 1197 Views
Err, it's the other way around - 15/12/2010 09:00:38 AM 1128 Views
I see. It's the same thing, really, just looking at it from the opposite perspective... - 15/12/2010 09:14:22 AM 1191 Views
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It's more that you take it out of context - 15/12/2010 11:32:36 AM 1175 Views
So then... - 15/12/2010 06:35:02 PM 1148 Views
Re: So then... - 16/12/2010 03:39:19 AM 1076 Views
Re: So then... - 16/12/2010 08:11:37 AM 1046 Views
Mierin - 16/12/2010 08:13:55 AM 1229 Views
It would be a good strategy for a conventional war, but - 16/12/2010 07:32:30 AM 1087 Views
Nature of the DO - 15/12/2010 10:38:24 PM 980 Views
While I agree overall, I think this is a case where Rand/TDR mistakes his role - 15/12/2010 05:37:25 PM 935 Views
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I don't think that's the issue. - 15/12/2010 07:31:03 PM 1034 Views
I think Egwene is successful and Rand has to go to the Seanchan for female channeler assistance - 18/12/2010 12:47:54 AM 1101 Views
Egwene's dream seems a little more personal than that - 18/12/2010 04:55:37 AM 940 Views
Yes - 18/12/2010 07:57:35 AM 965 Views
Actually, I think Tuon will capture her, and then release her. *NM* - 18/12/2010 02:47:42 PM 529 Views
Re: It would be a first... - 18/12/2010 02:48:40 PM 980 Views
Re: It would be a first... - 18/12/2010 03:28:57 PM 961 Views
Those are vewings and prophesies... - 18/12/2010 03:43:55 PM 860 Views
I wish - 16/12/2010 08:29:23 PM 1001 Views
That's just it: Egwene is not only wrong, she's narratively wrong. - 19/12/2010 11:30:35 PM 1422 Views
Man, that's the best take on Egwene I have ever read. - 20/12/2010 12:38:07 AM 988 Views
+1 - 20/12/2010 01:07:24 AM 1075 Views
You may be onto something there. - 20/12/2010 01:35:46 AM 1018 Views
Thanks. - 20/12/2010 01:24:42 AM 982 Views
Re: That's just it: Egwene is not only wrong, she's narratively wrong. - 20/12/2010 04:39:57 PM 1096 Views
Wish I'd read this sooner, 'cos I agree on several points. - 29/12/2010 03:38:59 AM 1036 Views
Re: Wish I'd read this sooner, 'cos I agree on several points. - 29/12/2010 07:32:49 AM 997 Views
It seems an odd oversight, yes; I can't even recall her being Delved when the truth was revealed. - 29/12/2010 12:40:00 PM 1035 Views
Ensure this value has at most 100 characters (it has 101). - 29/12/2010 03:00:22 PM 2750 Views
Ah, good point; Rand might have to do the job himself. - 29/12/2010 06:43:44 PM 996 Views
More likely to be Flinn. - 29/12/2010 08:18:19 PM 1027 Views
Maybe, once he knows the signs and techniques. - 30/12/2010 03:10:27 PM 1012 Views
Not sure if Rand had seized the source yet - he wouldn't have wanted to do it in front of Ramshalan - 30/12/2010 03:15:43 PM 959 Views
Good point, too. - 30/12/2010 03:17:06 PM 951 Views
He was holding the gateway open. *NM* - 30/12/2010 04:27:25 PM 499 Views
Thanks, had forgotten that. - 31/12/2010 04:43:25 AM 949 Views

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