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I think there's a stronger case for Someryn than most women Sidious Send a noteboard - 26/01/2011 05:07:03 PM
it could as easily be Sera or some other individual we've not yet met.


I don't think that any of the super-strong women are obscure, so I don't think a woman like Norla or Sera are possibilities. If RJ did make them so strong he would have inserted something about their power into the story, much like he did with Someryn.

Someryn has two quotes that suggest that she may be this woman. She has never met a woman who is remotely close to her in strength (which is striking considering we know of women such as Aviendha, Tamela and Viendre who walk among the Aiel, and surely are not excluded from the likes of the Shaido) and is very irritated that Graendal is stronger, and Graendal herself considers her to be 'not negligible', which is a high compliment indeed from a Forsaken if you see how Moghedien appraised Nynaeve's ability, and even how they rate Rand's own power. I think Graendal is only threatened by a skilled and powerful channeler, and she measured her own ability in Someryn, and thus refused to teach her Compulsion if Sammael demanded it.

Anyway, I'm not going to defend the point vigorously. The other five women have strengths that are all but confirmed to be greater than Nynaeve's, and Someryn can be added as the sixth with two quotes that make her a forerunner for this position long before any other channeler can be placed there. Whether people believe that her quotes hint at them is a matter for personal choice until Brandon confirms it.
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