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Remember Moggy fighting Nynaeve and Birgitte in TaR? newyorkersedai Send a noteboard - 30/01/2011 11:30:37 PM
Almost sound like a line from "Family Guy," doesn't it?...

Among other things, it's been made clear that some things very particular and peculiar things can be done to people in TaR.

Although Birgitte is not a channeler, I seem to remember reading that Birgitte herself was not only made to look like a child, but made to think she was a child. It seems clear to me that you can make people's minds change in TaR (if only to ruin them), and that this effect will persist outside TaR.

And I always assumed that this was possible - changing people in TaR. Then in ToM, Egwene made Mesaana into a drooling idiot with no channeling required. From my reading of ToM, I got that Eggy "made" Mesaana into a drooling vegetable.

How did you read those moments? And what possibilities did you extract from them?
This message last edited by newyorkersedai on 30/01/2011 at 11:32:28 PM
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TOM SPOILERS 5 Imaginary Dollars to whoever can tell me why Egwene didn't find Elaida's dreams, - 30/01/2011 10:18:03 PM 1872 Views
Inside Elaida's dreams, Elaida woukd be in control - 30/01/2011 11:05:32 PM 1430 Views
Where have you got the idea Egwene or any Dreamer could do this? *NM* - 30/01/2011 11:14:22 PM 648 Views
Remember Moggy fighting Nynaeve and Birgitte in TaR? - 30/01/2011 11:30:37 PM 1500 Views
But that's in TAR - 30/01/2011 11:42:25 PM 1201 Views
I meant "to locate Elaida *via her dreams* and pull Elaida into TAR" - 31/01/2011 12:18:13 AM 1292 Views
as to that the WO told her flat out that such things were evil and only done by the Shadow - 31/01/2011 12:53:32 AM 1191 Views
Need - 31/01/2011 06:40:10 AM 1235 Views
"Need" should not be confused with "want". - 31/01/2011 08:30:55 AM 1141 Views
You are confusing being in TAR and finding/entering someone else's dream - 31/01/2011 02:24:56 PM 1286 Views
The place with individual dreams isn't TAR - 31/01/2011 08:49:42 PM 1278 Views
Even then... you've forgotten that.... - 31/01/2011 01:53:07 AM 1304 Views
I read some of that differently. TaR tricks not working in the real world = destroying walls - 31/01/2011 02:09:31 AM 1308 Views
Yes - 31/01/2011 06:45:03 AM 1309 Views
Re: Yes - 31/01/2011 08:33:27 AM 1215 Views
Re: Yes - 01/02/2011 05:15:28 PM 1141 Views
That is not true... - 31/01/2011 08:27:33 PM 1289 Views
Thank you very much! I was wondering if I had to do a massive re-read - 31/01/2011 11:50:13 PM 1129 Views
Re: That is not true... - 02/02/2011 12:21:59 PM 1242 Views
Re: That is not true... - 03/02/2011 10:25:05 PM 1621 Views
Most Aes Sedai ward their dreams. - 31/01/2011 01:49:49 AM 1431 Views
They ward them with Spirit, and Elaida is a damane... *NM* - 31/01/2011 01:55:27 AM 558 Views
Yup... - 31/01/2011 05:58:29 PM 1122 Views
You sure on that? - 31/01/2011 02:29:43 PM 1184 Views
They DO ward their dreams... - 31/01/2011 05:56:51 PM 1115 Views
Re: They DO ward their dreams... - 31/01/2011 06:27:03 PM 1155 Views
Re: DO They ward their dreams... - 02/02/2011 02:46:12 PM 1076 Views
external threats.... - 03/02/2011 05:06:58 PM 1130 Views
Re: external threats.... - 03/02/2011 11:01:42 PM 1146 Views

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