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Remember Moggy fighting Nynaeve and Birgitte in TaR? newyorkersedai Send a noteboard - 30/01/2011 11:30:37 PM
Almost sound like a line from "Family Guy," doesn't it?...

Among other things, it's been made clear that some things very particular and peculiar things can be done to people in TaR.

Although Birgitte is not a channeler, I seem to remember reading that Birgitte herself was not only made to look like a child, but made to think she was a child. It seems clear to me that you can make people's minds change in TaR (if only to ruin them), and that this effect will persist outside TaR.

And I always assumed that this was possible - changing people in TaR. Then in ToM, Egwene made Mesaana into a drooling idiot with no channeling required. From my reading of ToM, I got that Eggy "made" Mesaana into a drooling vegetable.

How did you read those moments? And what possibilities did you extract from them?
This message last edited by newyorkersedai on 30/01/2011 at 11:32:28 PM
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TOM SPOILERS 5 Imaginary Dollars to whoever can tell me why Egwene didn't find Elaida's dreams, - 30/01/2011 10:18:03 PM 1748 Views
Inside Elaida's dreams, Elaida woukd be in control - 30/01/2011 11:05:32 PM 1283 Views
Where have you got the idea Egwene or any Dreamer could do this? *NM* - 30/01/2011 11:14:22 PM 574 Views
Remember Moggy fighting Nynaeve and Birgitte in TaR? - 30/01/2011 11:30:37 PM 1328 Views
But that's in TAR - 30/01/2011 11:42:25 PM 1049 Views
I meant "to locate Elaida *via her dreams* and pull Elaida into TAR" - 31/01/2011 12:18:13 AM 1150 Views
as to that the WO told her flat out that such things were evil and only done by the Shadow - 31/01/2011 12:53:32 AM 1039 Views
Need - 31/01/2011 06:40:10 AM 1105 Views
"Need" should not be confused with "want". - 31/01/2011 08:30:55 AM 1020 Views
You are confusing being in TAR and finding/entering someone else's dream - 31/01/2011 02:24:56 PM 1159 Views
The place with individual dreams isn't TAR - 31/01/2011 08:49:42 PM 1126 Views
Even then... you've forgotten that.... - 31/01/2011 01:53:07 AM 1149 Views
I read some of that differently. TaR tricks not working in the real world = destroying walls - 31/01/2011 02:09:31 AM 1156 Views
Yes - 31/01/2011 06:45:03 AM 1150 Views
Re: Yes - 31/01/2011 08:33:27 AM 1084 Views
Re: Yes - 01/02/2011 05:15:28 PM 1006 Views
That is not true... - 31/01/2011 08:27:33 PM 1139 Views
Thank you very much! I was wondering if I had to do a massive re-read - 31/01/2011 11:50:13 PM 1001 Views
Re: That is not true... - 02/02/2011 12:21:59 PM 1108 Views
Re: That is not true... - 03/02/2011 10:25:05 PM 1481 Views
Most Aes Sedai ward their dreams. - 31/01/2011 01:49:49 AM 1236 Views
They ward them with Spirit, and Elaida is a damane... *NM* - 31/01/2011 01:55:27 AM 487 Views
Yup... - 31/01/2011 05:58:29 PM 986 Views
You sure on that? - 31/01/2011 02:29:43 PM 1052 Views
They DO ward their dreams... - 31/01/2011 05:56:51 PM 991 Views
Re: They DO ward their dreams... - 31/01/2011 06:27:03 PM 1022 Views
Re: DO They ward their dreams... - 02/02/2011 02:46:12 PM 936 Views
external threats.... - 03/02/2011 05:06:58 PM 1002 Views
Re: external threats.... - 03/02/2011 11:01:42 PM 1027 Views

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