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I just don't think Jordan was a good writer, either. DomA Send a noteboard - 04/02/2011 04:57:37 AM
He was a much better story teller than writer, IMO. In fact, it's not that RJ was so poor a writer (though he lacked style - his prose is no more than a story telling vehicle and had little beauty or interest of its own), but that his writing on the whole was old fashioned in style, pace and devices, and that irritates many, especially those who read and enjoy mostly the faster paced and more elliptic "modern" novels. TV has completely changed the way we perceive and expect story telling. RJ still wrote like writers wrote when their readers had the patience and desire to learn all the little details.
Another problem is that RJ pushed the novel format a little too far. It's debatable whether any story should go on at such length that a whole volume becomes like chapters or at least parts of the big "novel" the whole series is in the end. It's part of the game that some chapters have to be slow, set things up - especially before the closure of an act, and at the beginning of another (this is what happened with LOC, COT/WH etc). When the story is so detailed and huge that set up chapters turn into set up volumes, forcibly the patience of many readers will get tried a lot. A massive challenge, forcibly again, is that RJ could not do what virtually all novelists do, which is to complete the novel from start to finish and look back, polish the structure, shift things around, and do massive cuts. Had RJ finished WOT before publishing anything, of course he would have fixed a great deal of things and solved many problems.

Ironically, Team Jordan went and made the same mistake, and if RJ can be said to have been overambitious and having run into problems controlling his story, TJ is far less excusable, because they could realistically have decided to finish the whole thing, at least in draft, before stepping back, looking at it, solve all the problems and consider the best way to divide in two or three a finished story. TOM as it stands is by a very long shot a worse novel than COT, even though with all the action and resolutions it's more exciting to long time readers of WOT. Literary speaking, it's still a complete mess. It makes COT look well structured and balanced, which COT is not!
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Why did the rainbow visions get so boring? - 02/02/2011 05:17:45 PM 2424 Views
toilet breaks and sexy time excluded too, whats that about? *NM* - 02/02/2011 05:24:50 PM 847 Views
Because the idiot sanderson ruined them, like he ruined most other things. *NM* - 02/02/2011 05:47:34 PM 1085 Views
Who would have written the end of WoT better yet still similar to RJ? *NM* - 02/02/2011 06:39:53 PM 636 Views
Let them whine. - 02/02/2011 08:03:13 PM 1420 Views
It's incredible that some readers actually seem to prefer Sanderson's attempts at being an author - 02/02/2011 10:32:31 PM 1412 Views
- 02/02/2011 11:15:50 PM 1575 Views
I am of this opinion as well *NM* - 03/02/2011 12:10:54 AM 636 Views
Same here. - 03/02/2011 12:58:31 AM 1276 Views
I agree. *NM* - 03/02/2011 01:41:53 PM 709 Views
i agree completely - 06/02/2011 04:47:04 PM 1295 Views
You forgot the part where Jordan was a terrible author. - 03/02/2011 06:20:13 AM 1362 Views
Re: You forgot the part where Jordan was a terrible author. - 03/02/2011 12:37:38 PM 1331 Views
Re: You forgot the part where Jordan was a terrible author. - 03/02/2011 03:14:13 PM 1215 Views
Re: You forgot the part where Jordan was a terrible author. - 04/02/2011 02:16:14 AM 1160 Views
Yeah, it's mindboggling that someone may have a different taste than you - 03/02/2011 01:55:57 PM 1377 Views
Re: Yeah, it's mindboggling that someone may have a different taste than you - 04/02/2011 08:17:39 AM 1132 Views
Exactly what I was trying and failing to say. I agree. *NM* - 04/02/2011 08:49:47 AM 527 Views
- 04/02/2011 05:22:41 PM 1449 Views
Different people find different things to be important. - 05/02/2011 02:25:19 AM 1245 Views
Very well said - 04/02/2011 05:49:43 PM 1506 Views
Have to agree here too. - 06/02/2011 04:54:12 PM 1265 Views
Because that's life - 02/02/2011 08:18:22 PM 1470 Views
It isn't life though. It's entertainment, and there's so much fun potential for that connection - 02/02/2011 08:27:45 PM 1234 Views
It's definitely better when they see something interesting, or important - 02/02/2011 10:19:50 PM 1312 Views
I disagree - 02/02/2011 10:30:49 PM 1246 Views
Like it or not, Sanderson is to blame for this - 02/02/2011 10:37:14 PM 1368 Views
He's obviously responsible, but it's not a very serious offense. - 02/02/2011 10:46:09 PM 1195 Views
Re: He's obviously responsible, but it's not a very serious offense. - 03/02/2011 03:51:04 PM 1328 Views
Yup... - 03/02/2011 04:15:23 PM 1226 Views
I put the blame more on Team Jordan. - 03/02/2011 06:52:42 PM 1317 Views
Re: I put the blame more on Team Jordan. - 04/02/2011 01:30:21 AM 1211 Views
I don't think Sanderson is a good writer. I just don't think Jordan was a good writer, either. *NM* - 04/02/2011 02:11:28 AM 621 Views
I just don't think Jordan was a good writer, either. - 04/02/2011 04:57:37 AM 1241 Views
Sure. - 04/02/2011 07:19:57 AM 1277 Views
Re: I put the blame more on Team Jordan. AGREED! *NM* - 06/02/2011 05:24:31 PM 649 Views
Best explanation of the issue thus far. - 03/02/2011 10:50:56 PM 1319 Views
But even then, all he saw was Mat talking/flirting with Tuon. - 02/02/2011 10:37:33 PM 1451 Views
You're probably right. There was a post not long ago about the characters tinkling - 02/02/2011 10:40:37 PM 1206 Views
Well someone's gotta be displeased! - 02/02/2011 11:20:53 PM 1446 Views
Here's my question: why are there so many songs about rainbows? *NM* - 04/02/2011 04:43:02 AM 706 Views
Yep. He could've used them to show their timing - 07/02/2011 12:21:40 PM 1309 Views

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