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I just don't think Jordan was a good writer, either. DomA Send a noteboard - 04/02/2011 04:57:37 AM
He was a much better story teller than writer, IMO. In fact, it's not that RJ was so poor a writer (though he lacked style - his prose is no more than a story telling vehicle and had little beauty or interest of its own), but that his writing on the whole was old fashioned in style, pace and devices, and that irritates many, especially those who read and enjoy mostly the faster paced and more elliptic "modern" novels. TV has completely changed the way we perceive and expect story telling. RJ still wrote like writers wrote when their readers had the patience and desire to learn all the little details.
Another problem is that RJ pushed the novel format a little too far. It's debatable whether any story should go on at such length that a whole volume becomes like chapters or at least parts of the big "novel" the whole series is in the end. It's part of the game that some chapters have to be slow, set things up - especially before the closure of an act, and at the beginning of another (this is what happened with LOC, COT/WH etc). When the story is so detailed and huge that set up chapters turn into set up volumes, forcibly the patience of many readers will get tried a lot. A massive challenge, forcibly again, is that RJ could not do what virtually all novelists do, which is to complete the novel from start to finish and look back, polish the structure, shift things around, and do massive cuts. Had RJ finished WOT before publishing anything, of course he would have fixed a great deal of things and solved many problems.

Ironically, Team Jordan went and made the same mistake, and if RJ can be said to have been overambitious and having run into problems controlling his story, TJ is far less excusable, because they could realistically have decided to finish the whole thing, at least in draft, before stepping back, looking at it, solve all the problems and consider the best way to divide in two or three a finished story. TOM as it stands is by a very long shot a worse novel than COT, even though with all the action and resolutions it's more exciting to long time readers of WOT. Literary speaking, it's still a complete mess. It makes COT look well structured and balanced, which COT is not!
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Why did the rainbow visions get so boring? - 02/02/2011 05:17:45 PM 2084 Views
toilet breaks and sexy time excluded too, whats that about? *NM* - 02/02/2011 05:24:50 PM 687 Views
Because the idiot sanderson ruined them, like he ruined most other things. *NM* - 02/02/2011 05:47:34 PM 898 Views
Who would have written the end of WoT better yet still similar to RJ? *NM* - 02/02/2011 06:39:53 PM 472 Views
Let them whine. - 02/02/2011 08:03:13 PM 1042 Views
It's incredible that some readers actually seem to prefer Sanderson's attempts at being an author - 02/02/2011 10:32:31 PM 1066 Views
- 02/02/2011 11:15:50 PM 1194 Views
I am of this opinion as well *NM* - 03/02/2011 12:10:54 AM 439 Views
Same here. - 03/02/2011 12:58:31 AM 896 Views
I agree. *NM* - 03/02/2011 01:41:53 PM 466 Views
i agree completely - 06/02/2011 04:47:04 PM 818 Views
You forgot the part where Jordan was a terrible author. - 03/02/2011 06:20:13 AM 991 Views
Re: You forgot the part where Jordan was a terrible author. - 03/02/2011 12:37:38 PM 966 Views
Re: You forgot the part where Jordan was a terrible author. - 03/02/2011 03:14:13 PM 858 Views
Re: You forgot the part where Jordan was a terrible author. - 04/02/2011 02:16:14 AM 805 Views
Yeah, it's mindboggling that someone may have a different taste than you - 03/02/2011 01:55:57 PM 1009 Views
Re: Yeah, it's mindboggling that someone may have a different taste than you - 04/02/2011 08:17:39 AM 749 Views
Exactly what I was trying and failing to say. I agree. *NM* - 04/02/2011 08:49:47 AM 376 Views
- 04/02/2011 05:22:41 PM 1074 Views
Different people find different things to be important. - 05/02/2011 02:25:19 AM 852 Views
Very well said - 04/02/2011 05:49:43 PM 1099 Views
Have to agree here too. - 06/02/2011 04:54:12 PM 846 Views
Because that's life - 02/02/2011 08:18:22 PM 1081 Views
It isn't life though. It's entertainment, and there's so much fun potential for that connection - 02/02/2011 08:27:45 PM 830 Views
It's definitely better when they see something interesting, or important - 02/02/2011 10:19:50 PM 913 Views
I disagree - 02/02/2011 10:30:49 PM 878 Views
Like it or not, Sanderson is to blame for this - 02/02/2011 10:37:14 PM 994 Views
He's obviously responsible, but it's not a very serious offense. - 02/02/2011 10:46:09 PM 851 Views
Re: He's obviously responsible, but it's not a very serious offense. - 03/02/2011 03:51:04 PM 955 Views
Yup... - 03/02/2011 04:15:23 PM 848 Views
I put the blame more on Team Jordan. - 03/02/2011 06:52:42 PM 863 Views
Re: I put the blame more on Team Jordan. - 04/02/2011 01:30:21 AM 808 Views
I don't think Sanderson is a good writer. I just don't think Jordan was a good writer, either. *NM* - 04/02/2011 02:11:28 AM 443 Views
I just don't think Jordan was a good writer, either. - 04/02/2011 04:57:37 AM 888 Views
Sure. - 04/02/2011 07:19:57 AM 932 Views
Re: I put the blame more on Team Jordan. AGREED! *NM* - 06/02/2011 05:24:31 PM 411 Views
Best explanation of the issue thus far. - 03/02/2011 10:50:56 PM 947 Views
But even then, all he saw was Mat talking/flirting with Tuon. - 02/02/2011 10:37:33 PM 1014 Views
You're probably right. There was a post not long ago about the characters tinkling - 02/02/2011 10:40:37 PM 836 Views
Well someone's gotta be displeased! - 02/02/2011 11:20:53 PM 1044 Views
Here's my question: why are there so many songs about rainbows? *NM* - 04/02/2011 04:43:02 AM 530 Views
Yep. He could've used them to show their timing - 07/02/2011 12:21:40 PM 884 Views

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