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I just don't think Jordan was a good writer, either. DomA Send a noteboard - 04/02/2011 04:57:37 AM
He was a much better story teller than writer, IMO. In fact, it's not that RJ was so poor a writer (though he lacked style - his prose is no more than a story telling vehicle and had little beauty or interest of its own), but that his writing on the whole was old fashioned in style, pace and devices, and that irritates many, especially those who read and enjoy mostly the faster paced and more elliptic "modern" novels. TV has completely changed the way we perceive and expect story telling. RJ still wrote like writers wrote when their readers had the patience and desire to learn all the little details.
Another problem is that RJ pushed the novel format a little too far. It's debatable whether any story should go on at such length that a whole volume becomes like chapters or at least parts of the big "novel" the whole series is in the end. It's part of the game that some chapters have to be slow, set things up - especially before the closure of an act, and at the beginning of another (this is what happened with LOC, COT/WH etc). When the story is so detailed and huge that set up chapters turn into set up volumes, forcibly the patience of many readers will get tried a lot. A massive challenge, forcibly again, is that RJ could not do what virtually all novelists do, which is to complete the novel from start to finish and look back, polish the structure, shift things around, and do massive cuts. Had RJ finished WOT before publishing anything, of course he would have fixed a great deal of things and solved many problems.

Ironically, Team Jordan went and made the same mistake, and if RJ can be said to have been overambitious and having run into problems controlling his story, TJ is far less excusable, because they could realistically have decided to finish the whole thing, at least in draft, before stepping back, looking at it, solve all the problems and consider the best way to divide in two or three a finished story. TOM as it stands is by a very long shot a worse novel than COT, even though with all the action and resolutions it's more exciting to long time readers of WOT. Literary speaking, it's still a complete mess. It makes COT look well structured and balanced, which COT is not!
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Why did the rainbow visions get so boring? - 02/02/2011 05:17:45 PM 2244 Views
toilet breaks and sexy time excluded too, whats that about? *NM* - 02/02/2011 05:24:50 PM 755 Views
Because the idiot sanderson ruined them, like he ruined most other things. *NM* - 02/02/2011 05:47:34 PM 980 Views
Who would have written the end of WoT better yet still similar to RJ? *NM* - 02/02/2011 06:39:53 PM 543 Views
Let them whine. - 02/02/2011 08:03:13 PM 1239 Views
It's incredible that some readers actually seem to prefer Sanderson's attempts at being an author - 02/02/2011 10:32:31 PM 1234 Views
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I am of this opinion as well *NM* - 03/02/2011 12:10:54 AM 537 Views
Same here. - 03/02/2011 12:58:31 AM 1080 Views
I agree. *NM* - 03/02/2011 01:41:53 PM 569 Views
i agree completely - 06/02/2011 04:47:04 PM 1084 Views
You forgot the part where Jordan was a terrible author. - 03/02/2011 06:20:13 AM 1168 Views
Re: You forgot the part where Jordan was a terrible author. - 03/02/2011 12:37:38 PM 1137 Views
Re: You forgot the part where Jordan was a terrible author. - 03/02/2011 03:14:13 PM 1034 Views
Re: You forgot the part where Jordan was a terrible author. - 04/02/2011 02:16:14 AM 973 Views
Yeah, it's mindboggling that someone may have a different taste than you - 03/02/2011 01:55:57 PM 1194 Views
Re: Yeah, it's mindboggling that someone may have a different taste than you - 04/02/2011 08:17:39 AM 929 Views
Exactly what I was trying and failing to say. I agree. *NM* - 04/02/2011 08:49:47 AM 439 Views
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Different people find different things to be important. - 05/02/2011 02:25:19 AM 1053 Views
Very well said - 04/02/2011 05:49:43 PM 1301 Views
Have to agree here too. - 06/02/2011 04:54:12 PM 1074 Views
Because that's life - 02/02/2011 08:18:22 PM 1269 Views
It isn't life though. It's entertainment, and there's so much fun potential for that connection - 02/02/2011 08:27:45 PM 1028 Views
It's definitely better when they see something interesting, or important - 02/02/2011 10:19:50 PM 1091 Views
I disagree - 02/02/2011 10:30:49 PM 1062 Views
Like it or not, Sanderson is to blame for this - 02/02/2011 10:37:14 PM 1166 Views
He's obviously responsible, but it's not a very serious offense. - 02/02/2011 10:46:09 PM 1002 Views
Re: He's obviously responsible, but it's not a very serious offense. - 03/02/2011 03:51:04 PM 1127 Views
Yup... - 03/02/2011 04:15:23 PM 1028 Views
I put the blame more on Team Jordan. - 03/02/2011 06:52:42 PM 1078 Views
Re: I put the blame more on Team Jordan. - 04/02/2011 01:30:21 AM 983 Views
I don't think Sanderson is a good writer. I just don't think Jordan was a good writer, either. *NM* - 04/02/2011 02:11:28 AM 511 Views
I just don't think Jordan was a good writer, either. - 04/02/2011 04:57:37 AM 1061 Views
Sure. - 04/02/2011 07:19:57 AM 1089 Views
Re: I put the blame more on Team Jordan. AGREED! *NM* - 06/02/2011 05:24:31 PM 550 Views
Best explanation of the issue thus far. - 03/02/2011 10:50:56 PM 1119 Views
But even then, all he saw was Mat talking/flirting with Tuon. - 02/02/2011 10:37:33 PM 1216 Views
You're probably right. There was a post not long ago about the characters tinkling - 02/02/2011 10:40:37 PM 1012 Views
Well someone's gotta be displeased! - 02/02/2011 11:20:53 PM 1241 Views
Here's my question: why are there so many songs about rainbows? *NM* - 04/02/2011 04:43:02 AM 608 Views
Yep. He could've used them to show their timing - 07/02/2011 12:21:40 PM 1126 Views

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