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They were naive redqueen Send a noteboard - 28/04/2011 11:10:34 PM
The only character to scorn Berelain and constantly look upon her as a worthless slut is Egwene. Surprise, surprise.


Elayne too, and Nynaeve didn't think much of her. I always assumed it was just their naivity - Egwene and Nynaeve still judging the world by Two Rivers standards (does anyone else think 'good Two Rivers woolens' are more about warmth than modesty? It's cold around there) and Elayne being jealous over Rand. Elayne, though she would have been raised knowing her marriage was a means to an end, would have unquestioningly assumed that she would enter into any such relationship from a position of strength. None of the three of them knew anything about the political realities of being a weak woman ruler with only beauty and guile for weapons.

Egwene, at least, should overcome that bias if she ever stops to think about it. Her own time as a 'novice' in the Tower was very similar, in principle, to what Berelain had to do. Her only weapons were her mind and her white dress, and she allowed her body to both be beaten and used for labour because it was the only way to succeed. You do what you have to do.
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Egwene vs. Gawyn (ToM spoilers of course) - 28/04/2011 05:01:46 AM 4479 Views
There's fifty feet of crap between rock bottom and your post... *NM* - 28/04/2011 07:40:04 AM 568 Views
Almost three days since the last post...at least I'm trying. - 28/04/2011 12:17:59 PM 1132 Views
Sorry about that... - 28/04/2011 10:58:50 PM 1183 Views
Ah, its always good to see a good Egwene rant. Bravo! NM *NM* - 28/04/2011 01:58:46 PM 809 Views
Great work, Cannoli - 28/04/2011 02:09:28 PM 1179 Views
Regarding the mother's permission.... - 28/04/2011 07:26:29 PM 1231 Views
while i agree with you on most of this - 28/04/2011 04:53:06 PM 1278 Views
hmpf, i post a good point and nothing - 28/04/2011 11:09:53 PM 1083 Views
Everybody agrees with you, that's why there were no replies *NM* - 28/04/2011 11:29:13 PM 562 Views
Here's a scary thought - 28/04/2011 11:54:50 PM 1366 Views
OMGWTFBBQ!? - 28/04/2011 11:58:37 PM 1087 Views
In regards to the letters... - 28/04/2011 05:28:13 PM 1359 Views
But Gawyn was not Egwene's subject - 28/04/2011 06:09:31 PM 1142 Views
Which was why I thought it was appropriate, since he meant to act as Egwene's Warder. - 28/04/2011 06:19:53 PM 1085 Views
The only issue is that Warders are not minions - they are honored junior partners. - 28/04/2011 07:39:18 PM 1262 Views
No, the junior partners are Accepted. Warders are essentially personal bodyguards and/or assistants. - 28/04/2011 08:00:17 PM 1041 Views
Marriage - 28/04/2011 08:27:53 PM 1074 Views
Accepted are not anything, let alone junior partners. Don't think N&E's experience was typical - 28/04/2011 09:32:22 PM 1310 Views
Here's the thing though... - 28/04/2011 11:20:32 PM 1108 Views
No, but it's cute and quirky when Faile does it. - 29/04/2011 03:06:50 PM 1291 Views
But... - 29/04/2011 10:52:03 PM 1055 Views
That's not really clear - 29/04/2011 11:41:20 PM 1194 Views
Actually, it is... - 30/04/2011 06:37:42 PM 1288 Views
Re: Actually, it is... - 30/04/2011 11:17:21 PM 1106 Views
Didn't Siuan, Gareth and Gawyn tell her about the Bloodknife they encountered? - 02/05/2011 02:33:08 PM 1093 Views
It isn't the worst romance in WoT - 28/04/2011 08:10:23 PM 1404 Views
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thumbs up to you both *NM* - 28/04/2011 08:45:51 PM 529 Views
Re: It isn't the worst romance in WoT - 28/04/2011 08:46:37 PM 1246 Views
Galad is a great option for a political marriage - 28/04/2011 09:04:46 PM 1086 Views
Yes, but... - 28/04/2011 09:40:39 PM 1122 Views
but galad knew nothing of berelain's closeness to rand, so that couldn't have affected anything - 28/04/2011 10:12:23 PM 1158 Views
Exactly - 28/04/2011 10:27:04 PM 1023 Views
Yes. An often overlooked point is that ELAYNE, not Egwene, gains the most power in ToM - 28/04/2011 09:42:43 PM 1489 Views
Except... - 28/04/2011 11:16:25 PM 1122 Views
Well... - 29/04/2011 12:14:42 AM 1078 Views
Re: Well... - 29/04/2011 08:39:37 AM 1042 Views
Except they're both really hot. - 28/04/2011 10:01:46 PM 1277 Views
They were naive - 28/04/2011 11:10:34 PM 1062 Views
Re: They were naive - 29/04/2011 03:18:42 PM 1438 Views
I can only quibble; Egwene became so insufferable in ToM I'm convinced her fate will be unpleasant. - 04/05/2011 12:41:53 AM 1305 Views
Siuan... - 04/05/2011 05:42:59 AM 1261 Views
Re: Siuan screwed up big time. - 07/05/2011 03:35:46 AM 1162 Views
Re: Siuan screwed up big time. - 12/05/2011 02:13:08 PM 1115 Views
"McClellanesque", eh? I'll have to remember that one. - 16/05/2011 12:12:23 AM 1391 Views

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