The only character to scorn Berelain and constantly look upon her as a worthless slut is Egwene. Surprise, surprise.
Elayne too, and Nynaeve didn't think much of her. I always assumed it was just their naivity - Egwene and Nynaeve still judging the world by Two Rivers standards (does anyone else think 'good Two Rivers woolens' are more about warmth than modesty? It's cold around there) and Elayne being jealous over Rand. Elayne, though she would have been raised knowing her marriage was a means to an end, would have unquestioningly assumed that she would enter into any such relationship from a position of strength. None of the three of them knew anything about the political realities of being a weak woman ruler with only beauty and guile for weapons.
Egwene, at least, should overcome that bias if she ever stops to think about it. Her own time as a 'novice' in the Tower was very similar, in principle, to what Berelain had to do. Her only weapons were her mind and her white dress, and she allowed her body to both be beaten and used for labour because it was the only way to succeed. You do what you have to do.
This message last edited by redqueen on 28/04/2011 at 11:11:27 PM
Egwene vs. Gawyn (ToM spoilers of course)
- 28/04/2011 05:01:46 AM
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There's fifty feet of crap between rock bottom and your post... *NM*
- 28/04/2011 07:40:04 AM
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Almost three days since the last post...at least I'm trying.
- 28/04/2011 12:17:59 PM
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What is to discuss here? You hate Egwene and will spin anything to put her in a negative light
- 28/04/2011 12:59:58 PM
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But he's so good at it. all the pieces are in there and close to the right place... like a picasso.
- 03/05/2011 12:51:54 AM
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I'd say there's no need to take it so seriously when there's so few posts lately. You should see
- 28/04/2011 05:59:19 PM
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while i agree with you on most of this
- 28/04/2011 04:53:06 PM
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hmpf, i post a good point and nothing
- 28/04/2011 11:09:53 PM
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you could say the same about a lot of the relationships in this series
- 28/04/2011 04:59:19 PM
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I agree there are plenty of underdeveloped and somewhat one-sided relationships in the series
- 28/04/2011 08:15:52 PM
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Re: I agree there are plenty of underdeveloped and somewhat one-sided relationships in the series
- 29/04/2011 06:55:14 PM
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Re: Avi/Min
- 28/04/2011 09:48:01 PM
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A courtship where one side doesn't realize they are courting....
- 29/04/2011 07:09:36 PM
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In regards to the letters...
- 28/04/2011 05:28:13 PM
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But Gawyn was not Egwene's subject
- 28/04/2011 06:09:31 PM
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Which was why I thought it was appropriate, since he meant to act as Egwene's Warder.
- 28/04/2011 06:19:53 PM
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The only issue is that Warders are not minions - they are honored junior partners.
- 28/04/2011 07:39:18 PM
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No, the junior partners are Accepted. Warders are essentially personal bodyguards and/or assistants.
- 28/04/2011 08:00:17 PM
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Accepted are not anything, let alone junior partners. Don't think N&E's experience was typical
- 28/04/2011 09:32:22 PM
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Here's the thing though...
- 28/04/2011 11:20:32 PM
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No, but it's cute and quirky when Faile does it.
- 29/04/2011 03:06:50 PM
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But...
- 29/04/2011 10:52:03 PM
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That's not really clear
- 29/04/2011 11:41:20 PM
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Actually, it is...
- 30/04/2011 06:37:42 PM
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Re: Actually, it is...
- 30/04/2011 11:17:21 PM
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Didn't Siuan, Gareth and Gawyn tell her about the Bloodknife they encountered?
- 02/05/2011 02:33:08 PM
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Re: Accepted are not anything, let alone junior partners. Don't think N&E's experience was typical
- 28/04/2011 11:36:24 PM
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My two cents: yes, a little, maybe, and possibly not.
- 28/04/2011 06:05:09 PM
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Regarding your reference to another Emond's Fielder: What are you talking about?
- 28/04/2011 09:06:13 PM
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both together, couldn't separate them in my mind - perrin's evasiveness or nyn's trickiness *NM*
- 28/04/2011 10:16:57 PM
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It isn't the worst romance in WoT
- 28/04/2011 08:10:23 PM
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Galad is a great option for a political marriage
- 28/04/2011 09:04:46 PM
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Yes, but...
- 28/04/2011 09:40:39 PM
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but galad knew nothing of berelain's closeness to rand, so that couldn't have affected anything
- 28/04/2011 10:12:23 PM
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Yes. An often overlooked point is that ELAYNE, not Egwene, gains the most power in ToM
- 28/04/2011 09:42:43 PM
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Except they're both really hot.
- 28/04/2011 10:01:46 PM
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They were naive
- 28/04/2011 11:10:34 PM
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I can only quibble; Egwene became so insufferable in ToM I'm convinced her fate will be unpleasant.
- 04/05/2011 12:41:53 AM
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Siuan...
- 04/05/2011 05:42:59 AM
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Re: Siuan screwed up big time.
- 07/05/2011 03:35:46 AM
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Good points all round (do you switch brains when getting into real world politics? ) & re: the Talk
- 12/05/2011 02:04:06 PM
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Thanks, (and no, you just become less and less astute as we move farther from fiction.
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- 15/05/2011 11:46:41 PM
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- 15/05/2011 11:46:41 PM
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