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Re: Several reasons exist Watcher Send a noteboard - 07/05/2011 03:09:51 PM
Given that the Shadow was winning right up to the Strike it stands to reason that they had at least the same amount of angreal & Sa'angreal as the forces of the light. Otherwise the forces of the light would be on the verge of collapse. We have no way of kwowing how many of them were or who originally owned those found in Rand's time. The fat little man angreal could just as easily have belonged to a darkfriend in the AOL as the light.

We know that its not just a simple matter of making sa'angreal. Callandor has a flaw and RJ said that this was because the forces of the light were pumping out angreal and sa'angreal as fast as they could and the rush resulted in the flaw.

That suggests to me that making an angreal and Sa'angreal is more akin to trying to build an apollo space ship that say a M16. You can mass produce the machine gun relativly easy but rush the ship that will take you to the moon and things can go wrong.

With that in mind the number of angreal & Sa'angreal may have been in the high thousands rather that millions. It does stand to reason though that high profile targets like LTT and the Forsaken would all be armed. I think that Rand/LTT called it a some sort of net in the last book when referring to Cadsuanai's ornaments.

Why would the surviving forsaken not have any on them when freed? The simplest reason is probably that they had to check them at the door. We know that you don't channell near SG without the DO's permission. Secondly if you do before the DO tells you how pissed at you he is there could be unforseen reactions between the OP and the TP. Thirdly we know that the best way to get ahead among the Forsaken is to kill your rivals.

Put those three together and I could easily see a rule that no one is allowed angreal or sa'angreal anywhere near the bore when there are staff meetings being called. Otherwise the meetings could turn into open battles.

So for example Lanfear leaves all her angreal etc at a safe location goes to the meeting and normally will retrieve her gear when she leaves. Instead LTT and the Hundred Companions show up, she ends up sealed in the bore and when she gets out her safe room with all her stuff is buried under the sea.
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How come every Forsaken wasn’t loaded with angreal when they were sealed in the Bore? - 07/05/2011 02:35:18 AM 2722 Views
Several reasons exist - 07/05/2011 08:49:41 AM 1719 Views
Re: Several reasons exist - 07/05/2011 03:09:51 PM 1641 Views
Re: Several reasons exist - 07/05/2011 04:29:39 PM 1615 Views
No - 07/05/2011 08:36:49 PM 1354 Views
Re: No - 07/05/2011 09:16:18 PM 1359 Views
Or another question - 07/05/2011 04:07:31 PM 1406 Views
Re: Or another question - 07/05/2011 04:24:21 PM 1496 Views
Which would be a shame. - 09/05/2011 08:17:23 PM 1383 Views
There's no reason to pack heat for a meeting at SG - 07/05/2011 06:08:53 PM 1605 Views
Re: There's no reason to pack heat for a meeting at SG - 07/05/2011 06:23:14 PM 1426 Views
Yeah, but - 07/05/2011 07:30:45 PM 1372 Views
They probably left them all at home.. .and not by choice... - 07/05/2011 08:48:50 PM 1644 Views
Re: They probably left them all at home.. .and not by choice... - 07/05/2011 09:54:11 PM 1548 Views
Re: They probably left them all at home.. .and not by choice... - 08/05/2011 05:48:01 PM 1417 Views
Uh whatever! - 11/05/2011 07:35:54 AM 1896 Views
Re: Uh whatever! - 11/05/2011 10:02:40 AM 1558 Views
Meet malekithe. - 11/05/2011 08:06:01 PM 1442 Views
Meet Cannoli - 18/05/2011 07:47:46 AM 1799 Views
Re: Meet Cannoli - 19/05/2011 01:45:03 PM 1710 Views
Whatever whatever! - 18/05/2011 07:43:31 AM 1579 Views
But the Dark One could control what the One Power did in Shayol Ghul - 11/05/2011 07:14:43 PM 1422 Views
it could also be that he told them to, because he could. - 11/05/2011 10:18:34 PM 1411 Views
Re: it could also be that he told them to, because he could. - 11/05/2011 11:50:27 PM 1361 Views
I was under impression they weren't very aware of the "destroying reality" part - 12/05/2011 06:06:56 AM 1300 Views
yep (on both) *NM* - 12/05/2011 08:37:59 AM 714 Views
I think they were at least in some part - 12/05/2011 04:15:26 PM 1232 Views
RJ stuffed up... - 08/05/2011 02:13:15 PM 1495 Views
Re: I don't think so - 08/05/2011 03:09:29 PM 1558 Views
Good points - 08/05/2011 03:13:57 PM 1380 Views
well, given that we don't really KNOW how Cuendillar was made... - 09/05/2011 06:11:32 AM 1404 Views
Re: well, given that we don't really KNOW how Cuendillar was made... - 09/05/2011 10:57:45 AM 1397 Views
I suppose that depends on what you want to get out of a fantasy book. *NM* - 09/05/2011 10:28:48 PM 737 Views
Do we really *know* that cuendiar is indestructble? - 10/05/2011 02:46:49 PM 1371 Views
We don't, although simplicity=/=weakness. Another scenario - 10/05/2011 07:08:57 PM 1289 Views
Sort of - 11/05/2011 07:49:10 AM 1818 Views
Re: RJ stuffed up... - 08/05/2011 03:14:20 PM 1407 Views
Not plastic, more like electronics. - 11/05/2011 03:26:53 PM 1498 Views
I missed this post, it's very well thought! *NM* - 19/05/2011 11:26:00 AM 781 Views
my personal theory with other thoughts - 09/05/2011 08:10:34 PM 1418 Views
Re: my personal theory with other thoughts - 10/05/2011 02:10:13 AM 1385 Views
Re: my personal theory with other thoughts - 10/05/2011 08:07:50 AM 1367 Views
Some people would. - 11/05/2011 02:42:25 PM 1340 Views
Re: Some people would. - 11/05/2011 03:01:01 PM 1259 Views
It definitely wasn't common. - 11/05/2011 03:45:45 PM 1425 Views
Re: It definitely wasn't common. - 11/05/2011 04:03:15 PM 1258 Views
and if you had prophesy??? *NM* - 04/06/2011 03:10:40 AM 805 Views
My personal theory is that angreal and sa'angreal require Circles of male and female channelers - 11/05/2011 07:24:34 PM 1358 Views
makes sense *NM* - 12/05/2011 08:36:08 AM 758 Views
Er, though - - 16/05/2011 06:08:55 PM 1365 Views
Re: Er, though - - 17/05/2011 12:38:14 PM 1234 Views
Don't think so - 17/05/2011 01:09:36 PM 1450 Views
Re: Don't think so - 17/05/2011 01:15:53 PM 1304 Views
I imagine they could - 17/05/2011 01:45:03 PM 1397 Views
Re: I imagine they could - 17/05/2011 01:49:53 PM 1335 Views
That makes sense - 17/05/2011 02:16:05 PM 1367 Views
Re: That makes sense - 17/05/2011 03:46:04 PM 1341 Views
Re: That makes sense - 17/05/2011 04:21:11 PM 1287 Views
Re: That makes sense - 18/05/2011 01:18:43 PM 1395 Views
That scene was weird - 18/05/2011 02:37:44 PM 1268 Views
Re: That scene was weird - 19/05/2011 10:41:59 AM 1277 Views

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