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Okay I'm not reading any of the replies in this thread until I finish ADwD, but I just wanted to say Sareitha Sedai Send a noteboard - 10/08/2011 01:49:11 PM
(I really don't know these books - I have only read the first half of the first asoiaf book. Too much rape/killing/sex. - but i read lots of forums.)

The backslash is huge. Almost everybody says: despite its length (cca. 420 000 words, if I recall correctly) nothing happens in A Dance of Dragons.

Filler. Padding.

We (wot fans) know these words. Every Perrin/Faile chapter (Why Perrin didn't die in book 4??? He is useless.), almost every Elayne's chapter, Rand's chapters (from aCoS to aCoT) ... Unfortunately, Sanderson follows Jordan's path: the last two books have many, many filler chapters. (Around 60% , I think.)

Mr. Sanderson,

the best advice I can give you is this:

I know the book will be a bestseller but the last WoT book is very important to me/us. We don't need more fluff, rehashing, summarizes, rehashing, summarizes, fluff. If you could write the in book in 400 pages (cca. 150 000 words), then write it in 400 pages.


AFfC seemed like a lot of filler. So far the pace of ADwD is better than that but nowhere near as good as the first 3 books, especially the 3rd. My sense so far (about 300 pgs into ADwD) is that splitting out books 4 and 5 into 2 books was ridiculous and I don't see the point at all. I'm really curious about that decision...all I know about it is what GRRM wrote at the end of AFfC about how it was too long and he needed to split it. My opinion at this point is that these could easily have been one book and still had some filler.

If you are from Betelgeuse, please have one of your Earth friends read what I've written before you respond. Or try concentrating harder.

"The trophy problem has become extreme."
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A Dance of Dragons will influence A Memory of Light? beelaa - 28/07/2011 03:30:30 PM 2498 Views
It's impossible for nothing to happen in AMoL. Marshall - 28/07/2011 07:30:02 PM 1467 Views
Oh, you're so cute in your innocence! Cannoli - 02/08/2011 06:14:37 AM 1201 Views
Good thing I wasn't drinking milk when I read this. RabidWombat - 07/08/2011 10:24:29 PM 1050 Views
Yeah, suck it WoT-haters! We're eclectic! *NM* Cannoli - 11/08/2011 02:00:05 AM 634 Views
Regardless of how bad it is, stuff still WILL happen. *NM* Marshall - 10/08/2011 05:30:02 PM 446 Views
Re: A Dance of Dragons will influence A Memory of Light? AshaShan - 28/07/2011 07:37:24 PM 1227 Views
Actually, there is growing discontent, even among those who've defended Martin. Libby - 07/08/2011 11:05:33 PM 1301 Views
Those who says that nothing happens in ADWD really need to read CoT Zeratul - 29/07/2011 12:02:23 PM 1235 Views
Watching grass grow is better than reading CoT, so it's not saying much for ADWD *NM* Praziquantel - 30/07/2011 02:10:12 AM 445 Views
~facepalm~ Libby - 08/08/2011 12:10:47 AM 1070 Views
A Dance of Dragons is hardly filler. *shrugs* *NM* everynametaken - 31/07/2011 04:43:58 PM 726 Views
Agreed. It could be argued that more happens in the epilogue of ADWD than all of CoT. *NM* RandAllThor - 01/08/2011 01:27:58 AM 459 Views
*NM* fionwe1987 - 01/08/2011 05:22:18 AM 432 Views
That's like a pissing match between Gigli and Ishtar. Tom - 02/08/2011 04:43:18 AM 962 Views
I regret wasting much of July reading it, so I respectfully disagree. Tom - 02/08/2011 04:41:39 AM 1052 Views
I do request that you don't lump ALL of fantasy into those two authors LadyLorraine - 02/08/2011 06:08:21 AM 1096 Views
You are completely overlooking his point, however. Cannoli - 02/08/2011 06:12:45 AM 1116 Views
F*** you, you idiot. *NM* Tom - 02/08/2011 06:13:48 AM 458 Views
At least he didn't ramble for five thousand words before actually making a point. *NM* everynametaken - 03/08/2011 11:04:06 PM 578 Views
Are you talking about Cannoli or Joel? : Larry - 03/08/2011 11:15:36 PM 1090 Views
*NM* everynametaken - 04/08/2011 04:19:40 AM 576 Views
There is that. Tom - 04/08/2011 04:51:39 PM 943 Views
And a direct reply: Tom - 02/08/2011 06:25:28 AM 1105 Views
that's fair enough LadyLorraine - 03/08/2011 12:22:34 AM 1032 Views
Pretty much. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 15/08/2011 04:49:40 PM 865 Views
Wait... You want intelligent meaningful books, but you're demanding action? A Deathwatch Guard - 02/08/2011 06:52:00 AM 1046 Views
I want one or the other. Tom - 02/08/2011 05:07:41 PM 911 Views
I don't mind a little of both Praziquantel - 02/08/2011 10:02:23 PM 851 Views
I think the issue is conflating fantasy with the multi-volume epics than anything I'd disagree with Larry - 03/08/2011 04:05:12 AM 1312 Views
That's debatable. *NM* Libby - 07/08/2011 11:07:51 PM 514 Views
Oooo! A smart one! She reads forums! Thank heavens an expert has come. Cannoli - 02/08/2011 06:24:47 AM 1123 Views
Re: Oooo! A smart one! She reads forums! Thank heavens an expert has come. RabidWombat - 07/08/2011 10:40:41 PM 1183 Views
Re: Oooo! A smart one! She reads forums! Thank heavens an expert has come. Cannoli - 19/08/2011 12:07:24 PM 1492 Views
I've wanted to say this for so long Japhy - 05/08/2011 02:21:10 AM 1049 Views
This "fluff" as you call it is important. Japhy - 05/08/2011 02:54:32 AM 1162 Views
Okay I'm not reading any of the replies in this thread until I finish ADwD, but I just wanted to say Sareitha Sedai - 10/08/2011 01:49:11 PM 1255 Views
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