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Not even Moraine thinks the Finns killed Lanfear LoialT Send a noteboard - 28/02/2012 09:17:30 PM
Here's the actual text from the book:

"My Power, Thom," she explained. "I could hear them barking and hissing to one another as they fed on me, both Aelfinn and Eelfinn in turn. They have not often had an Aes Sedai to themselves, it seems. While draining my ability to channel, they were fed twofold--my sorrow at what I was losing and the Power itself. My capacity has been greatly reduced.
"They claimed to have killed Lanfear by draining her too quickly, though I think they may have been trying to make me afraid. A man was there once, when they woke me. He said I was not the one he wanted." She hesitated, then shivered. "Sometimes I wished they would drain me quickly and end my life."

"They gave you your three demands?" Mat asked, frowning.
"I passed through the ter'angreal," she said. "The ancient treaty held for both of us, though with the doorway destroyed, there was no simple return."


So we see that Moraine did see that Lanfear was alive after falling through the doorway, and that the treaty held for her too. Then while she was being fed on, she was made tastier by the frightful news that Lanfear had died this way. She didn't believe it, and Moridin's presence is pretty suggestive that it wasn't true.

The question then, is how did she die? Did the Finns agree to let her go on the condition that she was dead? Do the Finns have to keep to bargains with the Shadow? I don't see how killing her would accomplish anything for the Finns, however. They would want Moridin to give up something. Even if he was trying to trick the Finns into thinking he wanted Lanfear alive, he wouldn't risk killing her there where there was the chance she might not be transmigrated, and he knew perfectly well that he could kill her whenever he wanted. I bet he brought along a captive channeler to exchange. Then I think events proceeded like you suggest, with the utter stripping, humiliation, and enslavement of the Shadow's most vain and self-interested servant.

LoialT :]
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What did happen to Lanfear? - 23/02/2012 10:54:19 AM 2178 Views
I thought Moiraine saw Moridin or somebody in there looking for Lanfear? - 23/02/2012 01:00:25 PM 1016 Views
Re: I thought Moiraine saw Moridin or somebody in there looking for Lanfear? - 23/02/2012 02:14:05 PM 951 Views
do souls remain the same strength with each reincarnation though? - 23/02/2012 05:45:40 PM 746 Views
We can only theorize - 24/02/2012 08:14:49 AM 822 Views
The Forsaken aren't a great parameter to judge from - 24/02/2012 04:10:35 PM 671 Views
Without the Forsaken its a pointless subject - 24/02/2012 04:23:57 PM 750 Views
not all things need to be explained. - 27/02/2012 04:07:21 AM 600 Views
Sanderson doesn't think this is the case - 26/02/2012 12:47:26 AM 755 Views
I don't think Lanfear died in Finnland - 27/02/2012 02:02:31 AM 1109 Views
I assume this was meant to be a response to Sidious' original post *NM* - 27/02/2012 02:18:09 AM 315 Views
All this could be true and could still have died at Finnland... - 27/02/2012 04:40:50 AM 597 Views
Re: All this could be true and could still have died at Finnland... - 28/02/2012 04:46:41 AM 666 Views
Why so? - 28/02/2012 06:33:25 AM 609 Views
I pretty much agree - 28/02/2012 07:15:26 AM 804 Views
WHen and where Lanfears original body died doesn't mean much to me - 28/02/2012 02:01:00 PM 564 Views
Re: WHen and where Lanfears original body died doesn't mean much to me - 28/02/2012 05:40:21 PM 534 Views
Perhaps ... But doesn't explain what they get out of killing her ... They have proven to be crafty - 28/02/2012 07:17:21 PM 592 Views
Well... - 28/02/2012 08:13:03 PM 673 Views
then why even negotiate with Moridin? - 28/02/2012 09:24:38 PM 709 Views
Re: Why so? - 28/02/2012 07:01:38 PM 721 Views
Not even Moraine thinks the Finns killed Lanfear - 28/02/2012 09:17:30 PM 1065 Views
Limits of resurrection... - 29/02/2012 12:32:43 AM 853 Views
Pretty sure it was Slayer - 23/02/2012 04:10:29 PM 804 Views
He's still a minion, and would have been acting on the Shadow's behalf - 23/02/2012 04:56:21 PM 674 Views
I corrected you. Not Moridin. It was Slayer. - 24/02/2012 08:07:17 AM 725 Views
And you know this, how? - 24/02/2012 08:43:38 AM 673 Views
Really? Its absolutely obvious that it was slayer. - 10/05/2012 04:16:43 PM 1049 Views
Maybe they can only drain a fixed amount - and did so to both women equally... - 24/02/2012 08:32:56 PM 794 Views
Ahh, Shannow... - 25/02/2012 03:51:10 AM 734 Views
I laughed too *NM* - 25/02/2012 06:54:15 AM 323 Views
Hilarious even for you - 26/02/2012 12:28:28 AM 660 Views
Exactly! *NM* - 27/02/2012 12:19:57 AM 395 Views
Seems convoluted to me - 26/02/2012 12:44:18 AM 655 Views
his sanity? *NM* - 28/02/2012 06:07:25 PM 439 Views
HA! Sanity is overrated *NM* - 28/02/2012 07:21:01 PM 316 Views
I wonder if he traded a taste of the True Power? - 29/02/2012 12:26:56 AM 559 Views
Now that is an interesting theory! - 29/02/2012 05:42:22 AM 561 Views
Maybe they can use the TP - 29/02/2012 02:43:07 PM 736 Views
Considering how they feel about anything dealing with the shadow, - 29/02/2012 03:03:55 PM 537 Views
Why not? I believe RJ basically said they are so different from humans that we could not define - 01/03/2012 04:54:40 AM 643 Views
Yet Light vs. Shadow is? - 01/03/2012 05:17:14 AM 626 Views
That could boil down to prophesy v. Prophesy - 01/03/2012 05:33:52 AM 641 Views
LOVE IT ... Great thoughts! *NM* - 01/03/2012 04:52:38 AM 257 Views
The foxhead... - 01/03/2012 05:19:13 AM 587 Views
Yes, but that doesn't mean an Aes Sedai made it. - 01/03/2012 04:20:10 PM 602 Views
My point was... - 01/03/2012 05:34:34 PM 483 Views
What makes you think so? - 01/03/2012 06:45:42 PM 580 Views
Re: What makes you think so? - 01/03/2012 11:22:06 PM 519 Views
Re: What makes you think so? - 02/03/2012 12:57:13 AM 552 Views
It depends.... - 08/03/2012 09:54:45 PM 651 Views

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