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Not even Moraine thinks the Finns killed Lanfear LoialT Send a noteboard - 28/02/2012 09:17:30 PM
Here's the actual text from the book:

"My Power, Thom," she explained. "I could hear them barking and hissing to one another as they fed on me, both Aelfinn and Eelfinn in turn. They have not often had an Aes Sedai to themselves, it seems. While draining my ability to channel, they were fed twofold--my sorrow at what I was losing and the Power itself. My capacity has been greatly reduced.
"They claimed to have killed Lanfear by draining her too quickly, though I think they may have been trying to make me afraid. A man was there once, when they woke me. He said I was not the one he wanted." She hesitated, then shivered. "Sometimes I wished they would drain me quickly and end my life."
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"They gave you your three demands?" Mat asked, frowning.
"I passed through the ter'angreal," she said. "The ancient treaty held for both of us, though with the doorway destroyed, there was no simple return."


So we see that Moraine did see that Lanfear was alive after falling through the doorway, and that the treaty held for her too. Then while she was being fed on, she was made tastier by the frightful news that Lanfear had died this way. She didn't believe it, and Moridin's presence is pretty suggestive that it wasn't true.

The question then, is how did she die? Did the Finns agree to let her go on the condition that she was dead? Do the Finns have to keep to bargains with the Shadow? I don't see how killing her would accomplish anything for the Finns, however. They would want Moridin to give up something. Even if he was trying to trick the Finns into thinking he wanted Lanfear alive, he wouldn't risk killing her there where there was the chance she might not be transmigrated, and he knew perfectly well that he could kill her whenever he wanted. I bet he brought along a captive channeler to exchange. Then I think events proceeded like you suggest, with the utter stripping, humiliation, and enslavement of the Shadow's most vain and self-interested servant.

LoialT :]
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What did happen to Lanfear? Sidious - 23/02/2012 10:54:19 AM 3174 Views
I thought Moiraine saw Moridin or somebody in there looking for Lanfear? Cannoli - 23/02/2012 01:00:25 PM 1438 Views
Re: I thought Moiraine saw Moridin or somebody in there looking for Lanfear? Sidious - 23/02/2012 02:14:05 PM 1246 Views
do souls remain the same strength with each reincarnation though? LadyLorraine - 23/02/2012 05:45:40 PM 1025 Views
We can only theorize Sidious - 24/02/2012 08:14:49 AM 1102 Views
The Forsaken aren't a great parameter to judge from LadyLorraine - 24/02/2012 04:10:35 PM 974 Views
Without the Forsaken its a pointless subject Sidious - 24/02/2012 04:23:57 PM 1096 Views
not all things need to be explained. LadyLorraine - 27/02/2012 04:07:21 AM 855 Views
Sanderson doesn't think this is the case darius_sedai - 26/02/2012 12:47:26 AM 1045 Views
I don't think Lanfear died in Finnland DomA - 27/02/2012 02:02:31 AM 1920 Views
I assume this was meant to be a response to Sidious' original post *NM* darius_sedai - 27/02/2012 02:18:09 AM 454 Views
All this could be true and could still have died at Finnland... fionwe1987 - 27/02/2012 04:40:50 AM 885 Views
Re: All this could be true and could still have died at Finnland... DomA - 28/02/2012 04:46:41 AM 956 Views
Why so? fionwe1987 - 28/02/2012 06:33:25 AM 898 Views
I pretty much agree Sidious - 28/02/2012 07:15:26 AM 1147 Views
WHen and where Lanfears original body died doesn't mean much to me darius_sedai - 28/02/2012 02:01:00 PM 848 Views
Re: WHen and where Lanfears original body died doesn't mean much to me Gartax - 28/02/2012 05:40:21 PM 836 Views
Perhaps ... But doesn't explain what they get out of killing her ... They have proven to be crafty darius_sedai - 28/02/2012 07:17:21 PM 879 Views
Well... Sidious - 28/02/2012 08:13:03 PM 951 Views
then why even negotiate with Moridin? LoialT - 28/02/2012 09:24:38 PM 972 Views
Wouldn't they have just kept her then or killed her right off the bat then? darius_sedai - 28/02/2012 09:52:49 PM 841 Views
Re: Wouldn't they have just kept her then or killed her right off the bat then? Sidious - 29/02/2012 11:28:10 AM 1007 Views
Re: Wouldn't they have just kept her then or killed her right off the bat then? darius_sedai - 01/03/2012 04:51:10 AM 832 Views
Re: Why so? DomA - 28/02/2012 07:01:38 PM 1043 Views
Not even Moraine thinks the Finns killed Lanfear LoialT - 28/02/2012 09:17:30 PM 1637 Views
Limits of resurrection... fionwe1987 - 29/02/2012 12:32:43 AM 1161 Views
Pretty sure it was Slayer Nargs - 23/02/2012 04:10:29 PM 1121 Views
He's still a minion, and would have been acting on the Shadow's behalf Cannoli - 23/02/2012 04:56:21 PM 965 Views
I corrected you. Not Moridin. It was Slayer. Nargs - 24/02/2012 08:07:17 AM 1082 Views
And you know this, how? fionwe1987 - 24/02/2012 08:43:38 AM 1006 Views
Really? Its absolutely obvious that it was slayer. Nargs - 10/05/2012 04:16:43 PM 1332 Views
I think it is clear enough... entyti - 23/02/2012 08:42:24 PM 1104 Views
Or maybe he was not there to negotiate for her release, just get close to kill her for the soul-swap *NM* Cannoli - 23/02/2012 10:15:01 PM 509 Views
Or maybe that was the best deal he could make with them. *NM* fionwe1987 - 24/02/2012 12:17:06 AM 449 Views
always figured it was slayer who told the finns she wasn't the one he was lookin for *NM* nigelgoboom - 25/02/2012 10:15:55 PM 471 Views
Maybe they can only drain a fixed amount - and did so to both women equally... Shannow - 24/02/2012 08:32:56 PM 1104 Views
Ahh, Shannow... fionwe1987 - 25/02/2012 03:51:10 AM 1021 Views
I laughed too *NM* Sidious - 25/02/2012 06:54:15 AM 443 Views
Hilarious even for you darius_sedai - 26/02/2012 12:28:28 AM 947 Views
Exactly! *NM* fionwe1987 - 27/02/2012 12:19:57 AM 509 Views
Seems convoluted to me darius_sedai - 26/02/2012 12:44:18 AM 909 Views
his sanity? *NM* Yunalesca - 28/02/2012 06:07:25 PM 629 Views
HA! Sanity is overrated *NM* darius_sedai - 28/02/2012 07:21:01 PM 433 Views
I wonder if he traded a taste of the True Power? LadyLorraine - 29/02/2012 12:26:56 AM 847 Views
Now that is an interesting theory! darius_sedai - 29/02/2012 05:42:22 AM 821 Views
Maybe they can use the TP LadyLorraine - 29/02/2012 02:43:07 PM 1017 Views
Considering how they feel about anything dealing with the shadow, Evil_Monkey - 29/02/2012 03:03:55 PM 807 Views
Why not? I believe RJ basically said they are so different from humans that we could not define darius_sedai - 01/03/2012 04:54:40 AM 912 Views
Yet Light vs. Shadow is? fionwe1987 - 01/03/2012 05:17:14 AM 908 Views
That could boil down to prophesy v. Prophesy darius_sedai - 01/03/2012 05:33:52 AM 912 Views
Re: Considering how they feel about anything dealing with the shadow, DomA - 08/03/2012 09:28:52 PM 847 Views
LOVE IT ... Great thoughts! *NM* darius_sedai - 01/03/2012 04:52:38 AM 386 Views
The foxhead... fionwe1987 - 01/03/2012 05:19:13 AM 911 Views
Yes, but that doesn't mean an Aes Sedai made it. LadyLorraine - 01/03/2012 04:20:10 PM 922 Views
There are others that are just as effective though .. Nynaeve has one and so does Cadsuane darius_sedai - 01/03/2012 04:53:46 PM 1005 Views
My point was... fionwe1987 - 01/03/2012 05:34:34 PM 747 Views
What makes you think so? darius_sedai - 01/03/2012 06:45:42 PM 893 Views
Re: What makes you think so? fionwe1987 - 01/03/2012 11:22:06 PM 800 Views
Re: What makes you think so? darius_sedai - 02/03/2012 12:57:13 AM 820 Views
It depends.... DomA - 08/03/2012 09:54:45 PM 916 Views
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