The books are not "pro-protagonist". They're pro plot. RJ decided on the ending well before much of the series was written, and so the series has focused on getting these characters ready for that ending, and they have survived. To explain this, RJ came up with the concept of ta'veren. But both that concept and the need to keep characters alive is voided with the LB.
With the Dark One increasing in strength, the Pattern is increasingly chaotic. That in itself is going to weaken any protection it might have offered to its chosen players.
For another, RJ is a war vet, and his experiences have very strongly guided the thematic elements of this series. I strongly doubt he would cheapen the LB by just having everyone survive.
The clearest indication that things will be different when it is the DO who's calling the shots was Verin's statement about how this war wasn't being fought on a level Rand (read: the readers) appreciated. The fights with the Foresaken, the battles for thrones and power... these were sideshows, not the true war. Which is why the survival of characters through those shouldn't be taken to mean they'll survive an assault on Shayol Ghul.
With the Dark One increasing in strength, the Pattern is increasingly chaotic. That in itself is going to weaken any protection it might have offered to its chosen players.
For another, RJ is a war vet, and his experiences have very strongly guided the thematic elements of this series. I strongly doubt he would cheapen the LB by just having everyone survive.
The clearest indication that things will be different when it is the DO who's calling the shots was Verin's statement about how this war wasn't being fought on a level Rand (read: the readers) appreciated. The fights with the Foresaken, the battles for thrones and power... these were sideshows, not the true war. Which is why the survival of characters through those shouldn't be taken to mean they'll survive an assault on Shayol Ghul.
So who thinks Elayne will die in aMoL?
- 29/02/2012 04:02:07 AM
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Given the various Foretellings and Min Viewings the only way Elayne can die
- 29/02/2012 05:48:50 AM
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There is the one vision Min had of Aveinda where she was going to have 4? babies but it was odd *NM*
- 29/02/2012 04:53:46 PM
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She's already gone from Caemlyn at the timeof the attack, at the meeting in Merrilor
- 29/02/2012 05:29:27 PM
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I also get the feeling that RJ isn't going to kill off any main characters
- 29/02/2012 10:44:29 PM
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Ok...
- 01/03/2012 03:23:11 AM
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practically speaking you're correct. But this is a fantasy novel with a pro-protagonist tone
- 01/03/2012 04:24:38 PM
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I disagree...
- 01/03/2012 06:29:32 PM
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not everyone, but I'd bet the core group all survives
- 02/03/2012 05:51:03 AM
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Re: not everyone, but I'd bet the core group all survives
- 04/03/2012 06:46:12 PM
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Re: not everyone, but I'd bet the core group all survives
- 04/03/2012 07:32:31 PM
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Re: not everyone, but I'd bet the core group all survives
- 05/03/2012 01:54:49 AM
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is there any chance that the broken crown could refer to Manethrean? (sp?)
- 05/03/2012 02:10:17 AM
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Perrin bringing Manthrean back seems unlikely
- 05/03/2012 04:28:57 PM
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No, I realize that
- 05/03/2012 09:12:56 PM
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Re: No, I realize that
- 06/03/2012 02:14:14 AM
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Ahhh. I had forgotten that particular detail
- 06/03/2012 02:45:28 PM
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Re: Ahhh. I had forgotten that particular detail
- 07/03/2012 03:43:59 AM
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Re: not everyone, but I'd bet the core group all survives
- 05/03/2012 01:51:46 AM
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Re: not everyone, but I'd bet the core group all survives
- 06/03/2012 02:35:23 AM
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RJ says otherwise
- 07/03/2012 02:08:23 PM
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Re: RJ says otherwise
- 08/03/2012 04:53:42 AM
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You misunderstand my point
- 09/03/2012 05:31:09 AM
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Re: You misunderstand my point
- 09/03/2012 12:40:29 PM
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Agreed. For all we know the baby image could be Lan meeting the oath taken for him by raising
- 09/03/2012 01:23:06 PM
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Re: Agreed. For all we know the baby image could be Lan meeting the oath taken for him by raising
- 09/03/2012 07:18:41 PM
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Re: I also get the feeling that RJ isn't going to kill off any main characters
- 01/03/2012 03:10:35 PM
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I didn't know Naelson was a Darkfriend, or Tylin either. What about Jaim?
- 02/03/2012 01:45:57 AM
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they're not main characters either
- 02/03/2012 05:58:13 AM
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Yes. I am classifying Main Characters as Rand, Egwene, Elayne, Perrin, Mat, Avi, Min and Nynaeve.
- 02/03/2012 05:42:58 PM
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Re: I also get the feeling that RJ isn't going to kill off any main characters
- 02/03/2012 12:53:41 AM
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And you think she won't hop back to Caemlyn the moment word comes of the attack? *NM*
- 01/03/2012 03:22:11 AM
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No, she won't be able to weave the gateway and Rand won't let anyone make her one. *NM*
- 02/03/2012 01:48:06 AM
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The smartass answer: Birgitte. But, despite all seeming evidence, I don't know why anyone would. *NM*
- 01/03/2012 04:36:22 PM
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It's fairly doubtful
- 04/03/2012 04:34:01 PM
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Agreed.
- 04/03/2012 06:37:25 PM
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Re: Agreed.
- 04/03/2012 08:38:45 PM
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I expect Moiraine to be the second woman to link with Rand
- 05/03/2012 02:08:44 AM
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I'm very suspicious of the whole "Callandor" theory....
- 06/03/2012 03:27:05 AM
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I have wondered for a long time if the Ogier, Rand, Aiel and the Tinkers won't end up
- 06/03/2012 04:04:13 AM
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Re: I have wondered for a long time if the Ogier, Rand, Aiel and the Tinkers won't end up
- 06/03/2012 03:10:45 PM
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