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The traps were defeated by Elza before freed Semirhage darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 18/10/2012 02:53:17 PM
it bears noting that Bair, not being able to channel, wouldn't have been able to see how Cadsuane disarmed her traps, so, IMO, this clue points towards Sorilea.


I don't think I agree. Even if Cadsuane inverted the traps, I'd bet on Semirhage knowing a way to get past them. And it's not necessary that the betrayer actually be a darkfriend - they could be under compulsion.


Remember she and SH brought the a'dam to Semirhage when they busted her loose.

I'm torn between the two as there are strong arguments for both. I lean a touch on the Sorilea side only because of a comment Verin made about her to Cadsuane. Very thin, but feels foreshadowy now that we know what Verin was up to. I'll have to go dig up the quote for you.
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Misc observations from my latest re-read darius_sedai - 14/10/2012 08:26:37 PM 3155 Views
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Re: How does LTT know about Far Madding's history? DomA - 14/10/2012 09:23:24 PM 1721 Views
Knowing the post Breaking history of the Guardians and speaking of the city as though he had persona darius_sedai - 14/10/2012 09:56:55 PM 1422 Views
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How Stong was Gitara? darius_sedai - 14/10/2012 08:34:43 PM 1638 Views
So so stong. She had incredible stength. Cannoli - 14/10/2012 09:04:15 PM 1667 Views
Degree of slowing is the same as how long they will live darius_sedai - 14/10/2012 09:22:23 PM 1483 Views
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Not in the mood to deal with you ... Go read the Ages section of 13th Depository darius_sedai - 14/10/2012 09:53:14 PM 1300 Views
Not interested in Linda's private theories. Cannoli - 15/10/2012 02:29:41 AM 1469 Views
Not my problem if you are that lazy. All the quotes you want are nicely organized darius_sedai - 15/10/2012 02:50:45 AM 1293 Views
And there's Sorilea... DomA - 15/10/2012 02:53:15 AM 1499 Views
Perhaps, but Bair is in her 80s and can't channel at all darius_sedai - 15/10/2012 03:09:35 AM 1279 Views
Problem is... DomA - 14/10/2012 11:52:00 PM 1393 Views
Again, my point isn't about motivations for Elaida or Gitara ... that is clear darius_sedai - 15/10/2012 12:07:49 AM 1283 Views
Show me where in the books an adviser is selected by Tower authorities! Cannoli - 15/10/2012 02:58:19 AM 1282 Views
Yet look what happens the minute a Stronger woman showed up darius_sedai - 15/10/2012 03:19:18 AM 1228 Views
Re: Yet look what happens the minute a Stronger woman showed up Cannoli - 15/10/2012 03:35:10 AM 1354 Views
Yet Morgase herself states she didn't consider Elaida a friend darius_sedai - 15/10/2012 03:45:45 AM 1180 Views
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He was banging the queen darius_sedai - 15/10/2012 04:19:24 AM 1229 Views
And what Aes Sedai gave him permission to bang the queen? Cannoli - 15/10/2012 04:30:42 AM 1493 Views
here ya go darius_sedai - 15/10/2012 04:39:29 AM 1350 Views
There's an awful lot for "not many" Cannoli - 15/10/2012 05:07:30 AM 1280 Views
When did I say I bought into Linda's theories? darius_sedai - 15/10/2012 05:29:27 AM 1212 Views
Re: Show me where in the books an adviser is selected by Tower authorities! Sidious - 15/10/2012 10:38:16 AM 1155 Views
Re: Again, my point isn't about motivations for Elaida or Gitara ... that is clear DomA - 15/10/2012 03:15:18 AM 1361 Views
The thing is Elaida had no experience in the arena at all darius_sedai - 15/10/2012 03:25:10 AM 1266 Views
IT IS NOT THE TOWER'S DAMNED JOB! She had more than enough credentials for ANDOR Cannoli - 15/10/2012 03:45:15 AM 1335 Views
Nope. Every other advisor we've seen has been sent from TV darius_sedai - 15/10/2012 03:50:07 AM 1284 Views
Those are not official advisers, those are ambassadors! Cannoli - 15/10/2012 04:17:51 AM 1345 Views
So now you are saying that Elaida was a personal advisor not an envoy of the Tower? darius_sedai - 15/10/2012 04:22:31 AM 1273 Views
Finally! I was beginning to despair of your literacy! Cannoli - 15/10/2012 04:34:18 AM 1328 Views
now I am questioning your literacy *NM* darius_sedai - 15/10/2012 04:40:45 AM 843 Views
She didn't "land it". She took the job for herself... DomA - 15/10/2012 04:00:35 AM 1257 Views
Actually every advisor we've seen except Elaida has been appointed darius_sedai - 15/10/2012 04:11:39 AM 1277 Views
You can bully someone into an act, not a twenty year relationship Cannoli - 15/10/2012 04:22:16 AM 1391 Views
Not arguing that Morgase had a problem with her darius_sedai - 15/10/2012 04:33:10 AM 1226 Views
We know nothing of the sort. Cannoli - 15/10/2012 05:14:54 AM 1228 Views
Prove that Elaida's post was not Tower sanctioned darius_sedai - 15/10/2012 05:39:23 AM 1338 Views
Re: Prove that Elaida's post was not Tower sanctioned DomA - 17/10/2012 04:15:37 AM 1348 Views
Egwene said otherwise DomA,... fionwe1987 - 17/10/2012 05:33:01 AM 1297 Views
Re: Egwene said otherwise DomA,... DomA - 17/10/2012 01:01:47 PM 1378 Views
Just to be clear darius_sedai - 17/10/2012 03:58:58 PM 1232 Views
Re: Egwene said otherwise DomA,... fionwe1987 - 18/10/2012 01:23:48 AM 1302 Views
Elayne's thoughts about this Zeratul - 17/10/2012 04:16:38 PM 1254 Views
And an answer to the rest of your "points" Cannoli - 15/10/2012 02:48:07 AM 1497 Views
Again. I refer you to Linda's blog. The relevant quotes are there ... Enjoy darius_sedai - 15/10/2012 02:52:03 AM 1289 Views
The burden of proof is on you to make your points. There is nothing in the books. Cannoli - 15/10/2012 03:01:46 AM 1307 Views
You mean the only way she could avoid become Queen was to flee? darius_sedai - 15/10/2012 03:30:26 AM 1344 Views
And never ever face discipline or punishment for fleeing? Outside the Tower, she was on her own. Cannoli - 15/10/2012 03:40:23 AM 1254 Views
I'm not using her theory, I'm saying she posted all the damn quotes in one place darius_sedai - 15/10/2012 03:57:00 AM 1289 Views
You don't see how evading the Tower's authority for 10 years undermines YOUR position? Cannoli - 15/10/2012 05:21:29 AM 1178 Views
Nope. It substantiates that the Tower will exert itself to ensure its Political standing darius_sedai - 15/10/2012 05:41:33 AM 1219 Views
Oh for the love of...! Here's the relevant quote: fionwe1987 - 15/10/2012 04:04:48 AM 1387 Views
Okay, but that's still irrelevant to the Oath Rod & its cutoff period or method, as well as lifespan Cannoli - 15/10/2012 04:54:26 AM 1220 Views
To quote you RTDB darius_sedai - 15/10/2012 05:16:56 AM 1213 Views
Re: To quote you RTDB Cannoli - 15/10/2012 05:27:47 AM 1269 Views
Some people look young. darius_sedai - 15/10/2012 05:51:25 AM 1183 Views
I never mentioned the OR... fionwe1987 - 16/10/2012 01:38:48 AM 1294 Views
RJ said Sharina would go back to about middle aged darius_sedai - 16/10/2012 02:23:21 AM 1115 Views
And that is probably the ONLY quote that wasn't on Linda's page *NM* darius_sedai - 15/10/2012 04:55:33 AM 746 Views
Told you so. *NM* Cannoli - 15/10/2012 05:21:58 AM 853 Views
I think so. linda_sedai - 16/11/2012 11:40:17 AM 1440 Views
Aging Kieran - 15/10/2012 06:08:47 PM 1364 Views
How old was Lanfear? darius_sedai - 14/10/2012 08:41:35 PM 1321 Views
Re: How old was Lanfear? DomA - 14/10/2012 11:27:12 PM 1365 Views
I couldn't find it darius_sedai - 15/10/2012 12:22:43 AM 1261 Views
It's in the Fires of Heaven, when Lanfear visits Rand and he remembers her as Mierin. *NM* ImmanuelXavier - 20/10/2012 04:19:09 AM 806 Views
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Not the same thing darius_sedai - 14/10/2012 09:44:43 PM 1251 Views
Show me some damn PROOF already!! Cannoli - 15/10/2012 03:19:18 AM 1432 Views
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Illogic, arguments from (false) authority and now ad hominem attacks. Cannoli - 15/10/2012 03:46:49 AM 1232 Views
I just don't see the point of an argument with someone who has already been proven wrong darius_sedai - 15/10/2012 03:59:19 AM 1246 Views
The frequently-confessing-ignorance, can't-keep-track-of-what-he-wrote ghostwriter, you mean. Cannoli - 15/10/2012 05:28:50 AM 1353 Views
Touché ... But to DomA's point we'll likely get some resolution in AMoL *NM* darius_sedai - 15/10/2012 05:53:14 AM 751 Views
Re: I've only been saying no for years. DomA - 14/10/2012 10:15:29 PM 1548 Views
Your argument is based on a faulty premise. Fanatic-Templar - 15/10/2012 08:11:19 PM 1132 Views
That could also mean the same KC prophesies were is Seanchan before Luthair came along darius_sedai - 16/10/2012 12:54:07 AM 1203 Views
Of course there is truth... DomA - 14/10/2012 09:42:24 PM 1361 Views
Didn't know Bsand had confirmed the corruption. Thanks for sharing darius_sedai - 14/10/2012 10:02:40 PM 1306 Views
Re: Didn't know Bsand had confirmed the corruption. Thanks for sharing DomA - 14/10/2012 10:23:17 PM 1356 Views
Hmmm ...I like it! It is actually very similar to what Nynaeve does darius_sedai - 14/10/2012 10:31:48 PM 1396 Views
How do the Black Ajah not figure out who the others are? darius_sedai - 14/10/2012 08:48:14 PM 1326 Views
Who says they can't? Cannoli - 14/10/2012 09:23:11 PM 1322 Views
True to a point darius_sedai - 14/10/2012 10:00:01 PM 1242 Views
Was Sheriam ranking? Would many of them have met her? Not everyone even gets to meet the SC. Cannoli - 15/10/2012 03:23:16 AM 1290 Views
Perhaps not. But a woman like Sheriam would stick out darius_sedai - 15/10/2012 03:37:12 AM 1208 Views
Re: Was Sheriam ranking? Would many of them have met her? Not everyone even gets to meet the SC. DomA - 15/10/2012 03:52:39 AM 1323 Views
But isn't it interesting that Sheriam and Galina, both young and strong are on the SC? darius_sedai - 15/10/2012 04:06:38 AM 1186 Views
Galina isn't young. *NM* DomA - 17/10/2012 03:24:30 AM 823 Views
Yes she is darius_sedai - 17/10/2012 03:46:39 PM 1330 Views
85 years being BA, 90 years as a sister does not qualify her as a "young AS" DomA - 18/10/2012 05:35:33 PM 1303 Views
She is not dissimilar to Sheriam when she made her rise IMO darius_sedai - 18/10/2012 06:53:54 PM 1251 Views
Re: She is not dissimilar to Sheriam when she made her rise IMO DomA - 18/10/2012 08:10:58 PM 1271 Views
I think Linda is correct in this particular instance darius_sedai - 19/10/2012 02:14:23 AM 1369 Views
You mean the SC? DomA - 14/10/2012 10:47:31 PM 1327 Views
No others meet as well darius_sedai - 14/10/2012 11:01:21 PM 1320 Views
Re: No others meet as well DomA - 14/10/2012 11:36:50 PM 1291 Views
Yet rank and file BA have methods of communicating darius_sedai - 15/10/2012 12:14:36 AM 1171 Views
Re: Yet rank and file BA have methods of communicating DomA - 15/10/2012 03:26:59 AM 1286 Views
I concede that the rank and file likely don't meet in large groups darius_sedai - 15/10/2012 04:54:04 AM 1228 Views
Re: I concede that the rank and file likely don't meet in large groups DomA - 15/10/2012 02:28:45 PM 1359 Views
I agree that RJ probably had some thing up his sleeve darius_sedai - 15/10/2012 03:01:20 PM 1147 Views
Re: I agree that RJ probably had some thing up his sleeve DomA - 15/10/2012 05:57:04 PM 1456 Views
I have a different opinion of Delana darius_sedai - 16/10/2012 01:20:32 AM 1590 Views
Re: I have a different opinion of Delana DomA - 16/10/2012 11:51:34 PM 1233 Views
Egwene only notes Alviarin as the Head. Verin may not have even mentioned or know who was SC darius_sedai - 18/10/2012 02:55:19 AM 1287 Views
Re: Egwene only notes Alviarin as the Head. Verin may not have even mentioned or know who was SC kHz1000 - 18/10/2012 03:40:54 PM 1173 Views
Give the sign to a woman and see how she reacts darius_sedai - 18/10/2012 06:57:38 PM 1309 Views
Re: Give the sign to a woman and see how she reacts DomA - 18/10/2012 07:26:56 PM 1228 Views
Not a good plan, I'll give you that darius_sedai - 18/10/2012 07:37:45 PM 1354 Views
*sigh* DomA - 18/10/2012 08:25:23 PM 1297 Views
*double sigh* darius_sedai - 19/10/2012 04:03:00 AM 1244 Views
Re: *double sigh* DomA - 19/10/2012 05:48:25 PM 1258 Views
Agreed *NM* darius_sedai - 20/10/2012 04:57:18 PM 730 Views
Re: Egwene only notes Alviarin as the Head. Verin may not have even mentioned or know who was SC DomA - 18/10/2012 04:59:25 PM 1332 Views
Not conclusive ... in fact the whole bit is vague ... I wonder if RJ would have given us more detail darius_sedai - 18/10/2012 07:23:30 PM 1339 Views
Not conclusive? DomA - 18/10/2012 08:49:49 PM 1180 Views
Don't put words in my mouth that I never said darius_sedai - 19/10/2012 04:08:22 AM 1154 Views
double post *NM* darius_sedai - 19/10/2012 04:08:22 AM 739 Views
Surely, in part, this is how Verin figured out who the Black Ajah was dadof5 - 15/10/2012 05:10:25 PM 3939 Views
Is there a Dark Friend WO? darius_sedai - 14/10/2012 08:51:16 PM 1403 Views
Re: Is there a Dark Friend WO? VTHokie - 17/10/2012 08:33:27 PM 1445 Views
I'd like to see more discussion on this; I'm curious as well TyrReborn - 18/10/2012 12:44:35 AM 1196 Views
Just a note about Bair redqueen - 18/10/2012 07:53:45 AM 1308 Views
The traps were defeated by Elza before freed Semirhage darius_sedai - 18/10/2012 02:53:17 PM 1286 Views
Re: The traps were defeated by Elza before freed Semirhage DomA - 18/10/2012 07:06:13 PM 1485 Views
Sorilea would have not been able to disarm Cadsuane's wards. Both inverted and likely too strong darius_sedai - 18/10/2012 07:35:22 PM 1227 Views
No, she would not have been able to (nor even see them to report about them) DomA - 18/10/2012 09:32:38 PM 1307 Views
Verin's goal was to dig out the BA. A WO would have been nothing more than a momentary darius_sedai - 19/10/2012 04:11:51 AM 1186 Views
I don't see how it could be possible Onarishma - 23/10/2012 09:31:51 PM 1195 Views
It's certainly possible, though it might contribute to making it rather rare DomA - 23/10/2012 10:55:07 PM 1273 Views
good point especially when you consider the Aiel view on pain and death Onarishma - 25/10/2012 06:14:40 PM 1128 Views
Galad and Gaywn ... Channlers? darius_sedai - 14/10/2012 10:47:55 PM 1483 Views
Re: Galad and Gaywn ... Channlers? redqueen - 14/10/2012 11:36:25 PM 1435 Views
Totally pointless, just looking to spark some conversation on the board! darius_sedai - 15/10/2012 12:23:34 AM 1424 Views
But how often in real life does that happen? Alanis Morissette taught us about death row pardons *NM* Evil_Monkey - 17/10/2012 12:27:45 AM 824 Views
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