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Good practical questions... Shannow Send a noteboard - 09/11/2012 07:24:14 AM

Please answer the following...

1. How exactly would Demandred get so many Shadowspawn to the Isle of Madmen? They can't Travel and there are no waygates.

2. Why would you choose a seafaring nation as the vessel for your assault when Shadowspawn are scared of water? Even with the Myrddraal driving them, Demandred doesn't have time to quell his own ranks while fighting the Dragon Reborn.

3. Where will all these boats come from? The Seafolk have pledged them to Rand and they're busy delivering food.


The Sea Folk idea for Demandred is a novel one. I'm merely considering it as a nice alternative to the stale theories we've had up to now. It doesn't mean that I support it unreservedly.

I'm thinking that if Demandred tried to rule them, it could be by convincing them that Rand has abandoned their deal. Didn't someone comment that Rand wasn't spending enough time meeting with the Sea Folk as per his bargain with them?

Alternatively, he could just Mask of Mirror himself into Rand, and pretend to be Rand, thus commanding them as he wishes.

The Shadowspawn could get to the cities in the same way that the horde arrived to attack Rand at the Manor.

Alternatively, Semirhage used barges to get Shadowspawn into Tear before, so a thousand Sea Folk ships could serve that purpose a thousand fold.

Anyway, my point is just that the Roedran theory is a very disappointing one. Its sole purpose is to drive a wedge between Rand and Egwene. That's not exactly an ambitious goal to be working on for 10 books.

Far easier, just invert your gateway weaves, slip into her bedroom and balefire her. Problem solved. No need for convoluted plots that are too dependent on externalities for its success.
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[Mik's Warp] - Demandred is.....*click to find out* - 05/11/2012 01:06:42 PM 3282 Views
There are only 2 months left before AMOL comes out (or less)... - 05/11/2012 02:10:07 PM 1747 Views
Nah.. forget that - 05/11/2012 08:29:53 PM 1602 Views
Re: Nah.. forget that - 05/11/2012 10:07:46 PM 1462 Views
Re: There are only 2 months left before AMOL comes out (or less)... - 06/11/2012 12:40:54 PM 1639 Views
I'm not saying it's not a well-reasoned theory; it is. - 06/11/2012 06:02:36 PM 1674 Views
I say Roederan is a better choice simply because of where he is located - 06/11/2012 11:01:28 PM 1581 Views
Re: I say Roederan is a better choice simply because of where he is located - 07/11/2012 09:42:00 AM 1824 Views
I applaud your effort, but to be honest I just can't see it - 07/11/2012 04:48:17 PM 1485 Views
Re: I applaud your effort, but to be honest I just can't see it - 07/11/2012 08:36:34 PM 1732 Views
There has been a lot of waste in WOT..... - 06/11/2012 06:26:56 PM 1400 Views
LIKE! *NM* - 09/12/2012 02:37:49 PM 1337 Views
Whoops *NM* - 06/11/2012 07:27:06 PM 844 Views
Plausible, albeit antilclimactic *NM* - 05/11/2012 06:32:38 PM 939 Views
Unless Mat is Demandred, at this point it will be anticlimactic. *NM* - 06/11/2012 04:02:38 AM 847 Views
That would be EPIC *NM* - 06/11/2012 07:53:30 PM 868 Views
That would be EPIC *NM* - 06/11/2012 07:53:31 PM 858 Views
You've tried too hard... - 05/11/2012 07:53:41 PM 3367 Views
Will be so disappointed if the Shadow's greatest (non-crazy) leader is defeated by Mr Happy Go Lucky - 05/11/2012 08:57:59 PM 1585 Views
I doubt Mat will kill him personally but - 05/11/2012 09:24:48 PM 1379 Views
I don't know - 06/11/2012 02:01:41 AM 1410 Views
My prediction of how it plays out... - 06/11/2012 07:12:15 AM 1454 Views
I don't think that's likely - 06/11/2012 06:04:55 PM 1472 Views
LOL ... it will be a saying in the next Age - 06/11/2012 10:36:04 PM 1361 Views
Re: I don't think that's likely - 06/11/2012 11:21:21 PM 1432 Views
Re: I don't think that's likely - 07/11/2012 08:14:28 PM 1517 Views
Re: I don't think that's likely - 07/11/2012 09:05:07 PM 1644 Views
Re: I don't think that's likely - 08/11/2012 05:52:16 PM 1433 Views
It sounds like we're at the same stage of vision of the AOL - 08/11/2012 07:48:17 PM 1412 Views
Statistics refute some of that... - 09/11/2012 07:35:59 AM 1394 Views
We're not talking about the same things... - 09/11/2012 11:31:12 PM 1368 Views
It doesn't mean no one in this Age can be at Talented or Intelligent. - 09/11/2012 11:43:26 PM 1541 Views
Re: It doesn't mean no one in this Age can be at Talented or Intelligent. - 10/11/2012 07:34:34 AM 1460 Views
You seriously believe that? - 10/11/2012 04:17:09 PM 1444 Views
Mat has grown quiet a bit since those days - 06/11/2012 01:55:48 AM 1550 Views
You're putting the Evil on a pedestal. - 06/11/2012 03:12:38 AM 1287 Views
No, just desperately trying to raise the stakes a bit... - 06/11/2012 07:00:59 AM 1461 Views
That's essentially what I was saying - 06/11/2012 03:35:45 PM 1567 Views
hmmm - 06/11/2012 10:27:00 AM 1778 Views
... is defeated by Mr Happy Go Lucky - 06/11/2012 08:45:02 PM 1563 Views
Mat is essentially the man (men) who wrote the books Demandred studied - 06/11/2012 10:42:40 PM 1357 Views
Exactly... - 06/11/2012 11:45:36 PM 1557 Views
... is defeated by Mr Happy Go Lucky - 06/11/2012 08:45:29 PM 1584 Views
I didn't try hard at all; Demandred found me... - 06/11/2012 03:31:41 PM 1632 Views
My biggest contention with Demandred being with the Sea Folk - 06/11/2012 10:54:50 PM 1496 Views
Re: My biggest contention with Demandred being with the Sea Folk - 07/11/2012 12:07:02 AM 1651 Views
Well, it instantly gives the Shadow access to attacking every coastal city... - 07/11/2012 10:32:23 AM 1469 Views
Exactly! - 07/11/2012 10:54:14 AM 2107 Views
If he married Nynaeve and Moiraine he'd have his wives at Rand's side in the Pit too.... - 07/11/2012 03:28:38 PM 1521 Views
I find that approach unnecessarily convoluted. Just hit them with 1 billion Trollocs and crush them. - 08/11/2012 07:00:36 AM 1450 Views
Not likely he has that many... - 08/11/2012 03:00:32 PM 1391 Views
May I ask some practical questions? - 08/11/2012 05:28:41 PM 1364 Views
Re: May I ask some practical questions? - 08/11/2012 10:35:38 PM 1448 Views
Re: May I ask some practical questions? - 10/11/2012 12:09:15 AM 1399 Views
Re: May I ask some practical questions? - 10/11/2012 03:11:59 AM 1395 Views
LOL ... Seems more than a little far fetched *NM* - 10/11/2012 06:17:34 AM 806 Views
Well you asked for an explanation - 13/11/2012 10:23:41 PM 1306 Views
fair enough *NM* - 14/11/2012 01:31:52 AM 766 Views
Re: May I ask some practical questions? - 10/11/2012 07:15:58 PM 1414 Views
Exactly! - 11/11/2012 07:38:46 AM 1417 Views
Good practical questions... - 09/11/2012 07:24:14 AM 1446 Views
He doesn't need the SF for that - 09/11/2012 03:00:34 PM 1224 Views
Well, they hadn't planned on them being Traveling grounds as they didn't know about - 09/11/2012 02:57:16 PM 1261 Views
Re: Well, they hadn't planned on them being Traveling grounds as they didn't know about - 09/11/2012 09:03:14 PM 1400 Views
I know. I'm saying they were not doing this with Traveling in mind. - 09/11/2012 11:57:34 PM 1337 Views
Re: I know. I'm saying they were not doing this with Traveling in mind. - 10/11/2012 10:08:04 PM 2939 Views
I see what you are getting at ... And I see how Zaida used it to her advantage - 11/11/2012 07:45:19 AM 1426 Views
Re: I see what you are getting at ... And I see how Zaida used it to her advantage - 12/11/2012 02:57:08 PM 1464 Views
Nesta sent 2 ambassadors to the Coramoor. Both looking for the same thing - 12/11/2012 04:11:50 PM 1473 Views
Re: Nesta sent 2 ambassadors to the Coramoor. Both looking for the same thing - 12/11/2012 06:01:33 PM 1583 Views
Well there is also the fact that Harine pretty much tells us she MUST make a Bargain - 12/11/2012 06:51:24 PM 1640 Views
Re: Well there is also the fact that Harine pretty much tells us she MUST make a Bargain - 12/11/2012 09:30:57 PM 1413 Views
Not to belabor the point - 12/11/2012 10:56:39 PM 1309 Views
Re: Not to belabor the point - 13/11/2012 12:46:21 AM 1335 Views
I think you are way off base on the economics - 13/11/2012 01:24:35 AM 1274 Views
Re: I think you are way off base on the economics - 13/11/2012 03:48:40 PM 1383 Views
no reason to *NM* - 14/11/2012 01:35:55 AM 783 Views
I don't see the problem... - 07/11/2012 10:52:49 AM 2239 Views
This is preposterous - 07/11/2012 04:15:11 PM 1891 Views
Who? - 06/11/2012 07:29:46 PM 1370 Views
Paah, he's clearly on the Isle of Madmen to the south. - 10/11/2012 03:28:26 AM 1775 Views

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