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No, just desperately trying to raise the stakes a bit... Shannow Send a noteboard - 06/11/2012 07:00:59 AM
You think it's so great that it deserves some honor or dignity... well, Mr. Rigney, Jr. has shown time and again that it does not.


Remind me how many protagonists have died so far over the course of the 12 books?

Remind me how many enemies Mat has casually defeated all comers without breaking a sweat?

Gholam
The Bad Aiel leader
Various armies
The Finns
Hordes of Shadowspawn

If we add Demandred to that casually defeated list, well, the travesty of non-fear inspiring villains will be complete.
This message last edited by Shannow on 06/11/2012 at 07:01:39 AM
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[Mik's Warp] - Demandred is.....*click to find out* Mik - 05/11/2012 01:06:42 PM 3264 Views
There are only 2 months left before AMOL comes out (or less)... Tom - 05/11/2012 02:10:07 PM 1724 Views
Nah.. forget that DomA - 05/11/2012 08:29:53 PM 1587 Views
Re: Nah.. forget that RandAllThor - 05/11/2012 10:07:46 PM 1444 Views
Re: There are only 2 months left before AMOL comes out (or less)... Mik - 06/11/2012 12:40:54 PM 1616 Views
I'm not saying it's not a well-reasoned theory; it is. Tom - 06/11/2012 06:02:36 PM 1655 Views
I say Roederan is a better choice simply because of where he is located darius_sedai - 06/11/2012 11:01:28 PM 1557 Views
Re: I say Roederan is a better choice simply because of where he is located Mik - 07/11/2012 09:42:00 AM 1807 Views
I applaud your effort, but to be honest I just can't see it darius_sedai - 07/11/2012 04:48:17 PM 1463 Views
Re: I applaud your effort, but to be honest I just can't see it DomA - 07/11/2012 08:36:34 PM 1715 Views
There has been a lot of waste in WOT..... Anonymous2000 - 06/11/2012 06:26:56 PM 1382 Views
LIKE! *NM* alanna aes sedai - 09/12/2012 02:37:49 PM 1326 Views
Whoops *NM* ßelals Girl - 06/11/2012 07:27:06 PM 832 Views
Plausible, albeit antilclimactic *NM* beetnemesis - 05/11/2012 06:32:38 PM 912 Views
Unless Mat is Demandred, at this point it will be anticlimactic. *NM* Tom - 06/11/2012 04:02:38 AM 838 Views
That would be EPIC *NM* Artsapat - 06/11/2012 07:53:30 PM 857 Views
That would be EPIC *NM* Artsapat - 06/11/2012 07:53:31 PM 845 Views
You've tried too hard... DomA - 05/11/2012 07:53:41 PM 3348 Views
Will be so disappointed if the Shadow's greatest (non-crazy) leader is defeated by Mr Happy Go Lucky Shannow - 05/11/2012 08:57:59 PM 1562 Views
I doubt Mat will kill him personally but TheCrownless - 05/11/2012 09:24:48 PM 1353 Views
I don't know darius_sedai - 06/11/2012 02:01:41 AM 1385 Views
My prediction of how it plays out... Shannow - 06/11/2012 07:12:15 AM 1439 Views
I don't think that's likely Sidious - 06/11/2012 06:04:55 PM 1454 Views
LOL ... it will be a saying in the next Age darius_sedai - 06/11/2012 10:36:04 PM 1343 Views
Re: I don't think that's likely DomA - 06/11/2012 11:21:21 PM 1410 Views
Re: I don't think that's likely Sidious - 07/11/2012 08:14:28 PM 1491 Views
Re: I don't think that's likely DomA - 07/11/2012 09:05:07 PM 1623 Views
Re: I don't think that's likely Sidious - 08/11/2012 05:52:16 PM 1410 Views
It sounds like we're at the same stage of vision of the AOL DomA - 08/11/2012 07:48:17 PM 1392 Views
Statistics refute some of that... Shannow - 09/11/2012 07:35:59 AM 1372 Views
We're not talking about the same things... DomA - 09/11/2012 11:31:12 PM 1352 Views
The real question is how much of that was caused by the Bore and the Collapse darius_sedai - 09/11/2012 11:50:20 PM 1404 Views
It doesn't mean no one in this Age can be at Talented or Intelligent. darius_sedai - 09/11/2012 11:43:26 PM 1524 Views
Re: It doesn't mean no one in this Age can be at Talented or Intelligent. Shannow - 10/11/2012 07:34:34 AM 1438 Views
You seriously believe that? darius_sedai - 10/11/2012 04:17:09 PM 1417 Views
Mat has grown quiet a bit since those days darius_sedai - 06/11/2012 01:55:48 AM 1530 Views
You're putting the Evil on a pedestal. Praziquantel - 06/11/2012 03:12:38 AM 1272 Views
No, just desperately trying to raise the stakes a bit... Shannow - 06/11/2012 07:00:59 AM 1446 Views
That's essentially what I was saying Praziquantel - 06/11/2012 03:35:45 PM 1548 Views
hmmm Yunalesca - 06/11/2012 10:27:00 AM 1760 Views
... is defeated by Mr Happy Go Lucky DomA - 06/11/2012 08:45:02 PM 1539 Views
Mat is essentially the man (men) who wrote the books Demandred studied darius_sedai - 06/11/2012 10:42:40 PM 1336 Views
Exactly... DomA - 06/11/2012 11:45:36 PM 1535 Views
... is defeated by Mr Happy Go Lucky DomA - 06/11/2012 08:45:29 PM 1565 Views
I didn't try hard at all; Demandred found me... Mik - 06/11/2012 03:31:41 PM 1607 Views
My biggest contention with Demandred being with the Sea Folk darius_sedai - 06/11/2012 10:54:50 PM 1475 Views
Re: My biggest contention with Demandred being with the Sea Folk DomA - 07/11/2012 12:07:02 AM 1558 Views
Well, it instantly gives the Shadow access to attacking every coastal city... Shannow - 07/11/2012 10:32:23 AM 1447 Views
Exactly! Mik - 07/11/2012 10:54:14 AM 2084 Views
If he married Nynaeve and Moiraine he'd have his wives at Rand's side in the Pit too.... DomA - 07/11/2012 03:28:38 PM 1506 Views
I find that approach unnecessarily convoluted. Just hit them with 1 billion Trollocs and crush them. Shannow - 08/11/2012 07:00:36 AM 1428 Views
Not likely he has that many... DomA - 08/11/2012 03:00:32 PM 1372 Views
May I ask some practical questions? Sidious - 08/11/2012 05:28:41 PM 1347 Views
Re: May I ask some practical questions? Praziquantel - 08/11/2012 10:35:38 PM 1429 Views
Re: May I ask some practical questions? darius_sedai - 10/11/2012 12:09:15 AM 1379 Views
Re: May I ask some practical questions? Praziquantel - 10/11/2012 03:11:59 AM 1375 Views
LOL ... Seems more than a little far fetched *NM* darius_sedai - 10/11/2012 06:17:34 AM 793 Views
Well you asked for an explanation Praziquantel - 13/11/2012 10:23:41 PM 1275 Views
fair enough *NM* darius_sedai - 14/11/2012 01:31:52 AM 755 Views
Re: May I ask some practical questions? DomA - 10/11/2012 07:15:58 PM 1394 Views
Exactly! darius_sedai - 11/11/2012 07:38:46 AM 1398 Views
Good practical questions... Shannow - 09/11/2012 07:24:14 AM 1429 Views
He doesn't need the SF for that darius_sedai - 09/11/2012 03:00:34 PM 1209 Views
Well, they hadn't planned on them being Traveling grounds as they didn't know about darius_sedai - 09/11/2012 02:57:16 PM 1243 Views
Re: Well, they hadn't planned on them being Traveling grounds as they didn't know about DomA - 09/11/2012 09:03:14 PM 1378 Views
I know. I'm saying they were not doing this with Traveling in mind. darius_sedai - 09/11/2012 11:57:34 PM 1320 Views
Re: I know. I'm saying they were not doing this with Traveling in mind. DomA - 10/11/2012 10:08:04 PM 2912 Views
I see what you are getting at ... And I see how Zaida used it to her advantage darius_sedai - 11/11/2012 07:45:19 AM 1411 Views
Re: I see what you are getting at ... And I see how Zaida used it to her advantage DomA - 12/11/2012 02:57:08 PM 1437 Views
Nesta sent 2 ambassadors to the Coramoor. Both looking for the same thing darius_sedai - 12/11/2012 04:11:50 PM 1453 Views
Re: Nesta sent 2 ambassadors to the Coramoor. Both looking for the same thing DomA - 12/11/2012 06:01:33 PM 1558 Views
Well there is also the fact that Harine pretty much tells us she MUST make a Bargain darius_sedai - 12/11/2012 06:51:24 PM 1621 Views
Re: Well there is also the fact that Harine pretty much tells us she MUST make a Bargain DomA - 12/11/2012 09:30:57 PM 1395 Views
Not to belabor the point darius_sedai - 12/11/2012 10:56:39 PM 1291 Views
Re: Not to belabor the point DomA - 13/11/2012 12:46:21 AM 1315 Views
I think you are way off base on the economics darius_sedai - 13/11/2012 01:24:35 AM 1252 Views
Re: I think you are way off base on the economics DomA - 13/11/2012 03:48:40 PM 1367 Views
no reason to *NM* darius_sedai - 14/11/2012 01:35:55 AM 771 Views
I don't see the problem... Mik - 07/11/2012 10:52:49 AM 2219 Views
This is preposterous DomA - 07/11/2012 04:15:11 PM 1851 Views
Who? ßelals Girl - 06/11/2012 07:29:46 PM 1347 Views
Paah, he's clearly on the Isle of Madmen to the south. Stephen - 10/11/2012 03:28:26 AM 1756 Views
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