Active Users:198 Time:01/05/2024 04:20:36 AM
Back to Messageboard Post New Thread Search Help Stats Rules
Not when you consider Morgase darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 30/06/2015 09:02:35 PM

View original post
View original post
View original post
View original postWell, Sorilea can actually use the Source reliably ... She showed Cadsuane how to create the Traveling weave, even if she wasn't strong enough to use it herself.
Perhaps she can; Traveling requires so much of the Power her inability to do THAT proves nothing either way. That we never see her even GRASP the Source on any other occasion is suggestive though. Aiel are very self-reliant, so she would be unlikely to use it for anything she could do as easily do physically, but other Wise Women channelers frequently used the One Power, while there are no instances where Sorilea was said to use it EVEN IN BATTLE. My guess is she ranks above Morgase (who does NOT?) but only by two or three levels at most.
When Rand is kidnapped she makes a little flame too ... and Cadsuane makes a comment in there somewhere that while she may be weak, she is skilled. I suspect she's the lowest level possible that still has some functioning ability with the Source. She's also got enough strength to be at least 100 years old (she has a great-great-grandson that is old enough to consider marriage

A flame that could not even light a cigarette is a dubious counterexample: "Usage absent utility" is literal contradiction.


Morgase couldn't even reliably grasp the Source much less use it to ANY effect. Sorilea can at least achieve reaching the Source at will and can create small effects, such as a stuttering flame or the faint weave for Traveling, something Morgase would never be able to do.

Her age would be augmented to a small degree given her tiny ability, especially since WOs lead harsher lives than an AS would ... and given that Bair, who cannot Channel is equally ancient in description, yet clearly younger than Sorilea I think it's safe to say that Sorilea has some bonus longevity.

Domani Drag Queen in the White Tower ... Aran'gar watch out!
Reply to message
Strength in the OP: the Encyclopedia chapter is out! fionwe1987 - 24/06/2015 09:56:33 PM 1940 Views
Re: Strength in the OP: the Encyclopedia chapter is out! gban007 - 25/06/2015 08:01:04 AM 845 Views
Re: Strength in the OP: the Encyclopedia chapter is out! fionwe1987 - 25/06/2015 05:49:52 PM 944 Views
That still would not make sense Joel - 25/06/2015 09:22:48 PM 938 Views
It would fionwe1987 - 01/07/2015 07:17:09 PM 976 Views
However many ways they meant "dexterity," ALL are precluded by saying, "pure strength" Joel - 02/07/2015 12:09:11 AM 1003 Views
Re: That still would not make sense Onarishma - 01/10/2015 11:54:06 PM 1007 Views
Re: Strength in the OP: the Encyclopedia chapter is out! darius_sedai - 25/06/2015 05:23:32 PM 1109 Views
I suspect... fionwe1987 - 25/06/2015 05:47:59 PM 954 Views
Re: I suspect... darius_sedai - 25/06/2015 06:33:10 PM 1008 Views
Yeah, a comprehensive scale restricted to AS would not be comprehensive Joel - 25/06/2015 09:22:36 PM 926 Views
Re: Yeah, a comprehensive scale restricted to AS would not be comprehensive darius_sedai - 25/06/2015 09:56:22 PM 890 Views
Sorilea can GRASP the Source reliably; there is no indication she can USE it Joel - 27/06/2015 08:19:19 PM 950 Views
Re: Sorilea can GRASP the Source reliably; there is no indication she can USE it darius_sedai - 29/06/2015 07:58:55 PM 837 Views
Since she looks her age I suspect reaching it is almost entirely due to natural longevity Joel - 29/06/2015 09:16:21 PM 787 Views
Not when you consider Morgase darius_sedai - 30/06/2015 09:02:35 PM 875 Views
Morghase did use her ability to effect, when unencumbered by Tower nonsense fionwe1987 - 01/07/2015 07:22:47 PM 1171 Views
Re: Morghase did use her ability to effect, when unencumbered by Tower nonsense darius_sedai - 01/07/2015 10:32:13 PM 951 Views
Sorilea has been at it far longer than Morgase Joel - 02/07/2015 12:21:55 AM 876 Views
Re: Sorilea has been at it far longer than Morgase darius_sedai - 08/07/2015 03:26:43 AM 844 Views
Re: Sorilea has been at it far longer than Morgase Joel - 09/07/2015 02:25:58 AM 873 Views
RJ did say... fionwe1987 - 09/07/2015 07:13:01 AM 795 Views
True, but that only makes slowings imprecise nature harder to gauge Joel - 10/07/2015 02:51:45 AM 1212 Views
Morgase spent nearly 2 years in the Tower darius_sedai - 09/07/2015 03:22:06 PM 1049 Views
And countless hours of frustrated focus to--fleetingly--grasp the source ONCE (i.e. less than twice) Joel - 10/07/2015 02:51:53 AM 954 Views
doesn't make sense as you describe it darius_sedai - 10/07/2015 04:42:31 PM 773 Views
It does not make sense as Jordan describes it either Joel - 10/07/2015 09:00:36 PM 979 Views
I agree with all of this fionwe1987 - 10/07/2015 05:21:40 PM 855 Views
You are wise Joel - 10/07/2015 09:06:16 PM 857 Views
But the scale was only applicable for Aes Sedai; they are the only ones to whom strength matters Cannoli - 25/06/2015 11:10:45 PM 871 Views
It MATTERS to everyone; just because it is irrelevant to a hierarchy does not make it absolutely so Joel - 27/06/2015 08:44:07 PM 835 Views
The problem with that fionwe1987 - 01/07/2015 07:26:53 PM 1085 Views
66 levels for women + 6 ( ? ) for men Terez - 27/06/2015 10:58:16 AM 1051 Views
theory, lesser strength increases the likely hood of a very specific sometimes untapped talent? Aleksis Michael - 30/06/2015 12:25:45 AM 837 Views
Developed skills are distinct from innate Talents (in Randland, literally) but I would still say no Joel - 30/06/2015 01:21:25 PM 756 Views
This thing is all over the place Shannow - 30/06/2015 02:39:01 PM 984 Views
Re: This thing is all over the place darius_sedai - 30/06/2015 09:39:43 PM 918 Views
Some of it is... fionwe1987 - 01/07/2015 08:10:00 PM 1045 Views
Back to Messageboard Post New Thread Search Help Stats Rules

Reply to Message

Block Quote Paragraph Quote
Formatting
Smiley Codes