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However many ways they meant "dexterity," ALL are precluded by saying, "pure strength" Joel Send a noteboard - 02/07/2015 12:09:11 AM

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View original postThen the quoted section basically says, "if comparing SOLELY strength, ignoring ALL else, the strongest man was as strong as the strongest woman." We know that is false because the male scale has levels above the female scales highest, and the rest of the entrys context consistently shows that comparison is not apples to oranges: Strength x is strength x, for male AND female, though a woman will have more skill than they would have as a man with all skills developed to the same degree.
The dexterity advantage is women only, and is inherent. The section is basically saying that if you ognore knowledge, practice, and other acquired characteristics, and stick to inherent stuff alone, the strongest man and strongest woman are the same.

Particularly when they make that explicit by clarifying that their statement is "avoiding the advantages of dexterity" etc. All that is sure is that WHATEVER they meant was very poorly expressed, because we must figure it out before we even CAN decide if we agree.

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Strength in the OP: the Encyclopedia chapter is out! fionwe1987 - 24/06/2015 09:56:33 PM 2285 Views
Re: Strength in the OP: the Encyclopedia chapter is out! gban007 - 25/06/2015 08:01:04 AM 1188 Views
Re: Strength in the OP: the Encyclopedia chapter is out! fionwe1987 - 25/06/2015 05:49:52 PM 1264 Views
That still would not make sense Joel - 25/06/2015 09:22:48 PM 1273 Views
It would fionwe1987 - 01/07/2015 07:17:09 PM 1284 Views
However many ways they meant "dexterity," ALL are precluded by saying, "pure strength" Joel - 02/07/2015 12:09:11 AM 1411 Views
Re: That still would not make sense Onarishma - 01/10/2015 11:54:06 PM 1349 Views
Re: Strength in the OP: the Encyclopedia chapter is out! darius_sedai - 25/06/2015 05:23:32 PM 1478 Views
I suspect... fionwe1987 - 25/06/2015 05:47:59 PM 1294 Views
Re: I suspect... darius_sedai - 25/06/2015 06:33:10 PM 1366 Views
Yeah, a comprehensive scale restricted to AS would not be comprehensive Joel - 25/06/2015 09:22:36 PM 1303 Views
Re: Yeah, a comprehensive scale restricted to AS would not be comprehensive darius_sedai - 25/06/2015 09:56:22 PM 1242 Views
Sorilea can GRASP the Source reliably; there is no indication she can USE it Joel - 27/06/2015 08:19:19 PM 1289 Views
Re: Sorilea can GRASP the Source reliably; there is no indication she can USE it darius_sedai - 29/06/2015 07:58:55 PM 1164 Views
Since she looks her age I suspect reaching it is almost entirely due to natural longevity Joel - 29/06/2015 09:16:21 PM 1133 Views
Not when you consider Morgase darius_sedai - 30/06/2015 09:02:35 PM 1182 Views
Morghase did use her ability to effect, when unencumbered by Tower nonsense fionwe1987 - 01/07/2015 07:22:47 PM 1518 Views
Re: Morghase did use her ability to effect, when unencumbered by Tower nonsense darius_sedai - 01/07/2015 10:32:13 PM 1292 Views
Sorilea has been at it far longer than Morgase Joel - 02/07/2015 12:21:55 AM 1323 Views
Re: Sorilea has been at it far longer than Morgase darius_sedai - 08/07/2015 03:26:43 AM 1186 Views
Re: Sorilea has been at it far longer than Morgase Joel - 09/07/2015 02:25:58 AM 1284 Views
RJ did say... fionwe1987 - 09/07/2015 07:13:01 AM 1113 Views
True, but that only makes slowings imprecise nature harder to gauge Joel - 10/07/2015 02:51:45 AM 1606 Views
Morgase spent nearly 2 years in the Tower darius_sedai - 09/07/2015 03:22:06 PM 1472 Views
And countless hours of frustrated focus to--fleetingly--grasp the source ONCE (i.e. less than twice) Joel - 10/07/2015 02:51:53 AM 1382 Views
doesn't make sense as you describe it darius_sedai - 10/07/2015 04:42:31 PM 1109 Views
It does not make sense as Jordan describes it either Joel - 10/07/2015 09:00:36 PM 1353 Views
I agree with all of this fionwe1987 - 10/07/2015 05:21:40 PM 1168 Views
You are wise Joel - 10/07/2015 09:06:16 PM 1255 Views
But the scale was only applicable for Aes Sedai; they are the only ones to whom strength matters Cannoli - 25/06/2015 11:10:45 PM 1226 Views
It MATTERS to everyone; just because it is irrelevant to a hierarchy does not make it absolutely so Joel - 27/06/2015 08:44:07 PM 1220 Views
The problem with that fionwe1987 - 01/07/2015 07:26:53 PM 1397 Views
66 levels for women + 6 ( ? ) for men Terez - 27/06/2015 10:58:16 AM 1464 Views
theory, lesser strength increases the likely hood of a very specific sometimes untapped talent? Aleksis Michael - 30/06/2015 12:25:45 AM 1196 Views
Developed skills are distinct from innate Talents (in Randland, literally) but I would still say no Joel - 30/06/2015 01:21:25 PM 1176 Views
This thing is all over the place Shannow - 30/06/2015 02:39:01 PM 1348 Views
Re: This thing is all over the place darius_sedai - 30/06/2015 09:39:43 PM 1294 Views
Some of it is... fionwe1987 - 01/07/2015 08:10:00 PM 1405 Views
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