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Re: On Rand and Ishamael darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 02/01/2016 01:18:07 AM

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Just to put my 2 cents into the overall conversation on this thread

Do some of the issues we see with the power looking to change from the early books to later books revolve around Rand and Ishamael?

If so, is there potential that rather than the power changing, that Rand and Ishamael being the champions of light and shadow respectively, have a general innate strength, equivalent to others of 1++ strength, but that at times they become conduits of light / shadow, and so their apparent strength is even higher at those times?

I see this potentially supported by Rand's view of the forsaken in the first book, with the threads they had to the shadow and the differences between Aginor's and Ishamael's, and Rand's display against the shadow at Tarwin's Gap in the first book as well.



And let's not forget that Ishamael wasn't actually using the OP all of the time. He utilized the True Power most of the time and that seems to involve being as strong as the Dark One allows you to be rather than some innate strength level.

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One Power strength: let's play with numbers Sidious - 18/12/2015 01:09:06 PM 2443 Views
Actually, I largely agree fionwe1987 - 18/12/2015 03:33:27 PM 1160 Views
Yup ... note how silent he's been since the Companion came out *NM* darius_sedai - 18/12/2015 05:50:44 PM 658 Views
I've been silent because the Companion is a joke and hardly worth pointing out all the errors... Shannow - 19/12/2015 09:37:53 AM 1213 Views
Clearly there are mistakes in the Companion darius_sedai - 19/12/2015 03:28:49 PM 1188 Views
fionwe1987 - 19/12/2015 05:52:29 PM 1123 Views
It is easy to accept the Companion. All you have to do is reject the evidence in the books. Shannow - 19/12/2015 06:58:41 PM 1172 Views
No... fionwe1987 - 19/12/2015 08:59:58 PM 1159 Views
And let's not forget Mylen darius_sedai - 21/12/2015 09:07:27 PM 1226 Views
Splitting flows: the Great Aes Sedai mixup fionwe1987 - 22/12/2015 01:34:54 AM 1708 Views
Re: Splitting flows: the Great Aes Sedai mixup Sidious - 22/12/2015 06:05:02 AM 1337 Views
I have a theory on why darius_sedai - 23/12/2015 05:26:52 PM 1003 Views
Re: I have a theory on why Sidious - 24/12/2015 09:44:44 AM 1050 Views
Well it is stated as being difficult and grows with each additional split darius_sedai - 24/12/2015 07:32:48 PM 1160 Views
Re: Well it is stated as being difficult and grows with each additional split fionwe1987 - 24/12/2015 11:37:35 PM 991 Views
That's why I brought it up ... Seemed like that's what RJ wanted us to see darius_sedai - 25/12/2015 11:48:20 PM 1244 Views
How I see Traveling... fionwe1987 - 24/12/2015 11:35:30 PM 1097 Views
Re: How I see Traveling... Sidious - 26/12/2015 10:43:13 AM 1096 Views
Re: How I see Traveling... fionwe1987 - 29/12/2015 02:34:58 AM 1099 Views
Re: How I see Traveling... Sidious - 30/12/2015 07:41:43 AM 1260 Views
Re: How I see Traveling... darius_sedai - 01/01/2016 08:33:34 PM 1084 Views
Some thoughts Sidious - 20/12/2015 09:29:28 AM 1130 Views
My response to your thoughts... Shannow - 20/12/2015 07:19:15 PM 1220 Views
My thoughts on your thoughts Sidious - 21/12/2015 02:34:38 PM 1007 Views
Re: My thoughts on your thoughts darius_sedai - 21/12/2015 08:55:40 PM 1077 Views
How do you come to these conclusions when the books so obviously refute them? darius_sedai - 03/01/2016 03:30:53 AM 1064 Views
Re: Some thoughts DomA - 22/12/2015 06:21:41 PM 1235 Views
No palpitations here ... I pretty much agree with all of this *NM* darius_sedai - 18/12/2015 05:50:08 PM 614 Views
Well this is inconvenient Sidious - 19/12/2015 07:38:30 AM 1029 Views
hahaha darius_sedai - 19/12/2015 03:09:41 PM 1078 Views
Moraine and Siuan level in NS darius_sedai - 30/12/2015 02:13:05 AM 1053 Views
Here are my thoughts Sidious - 30/12/2015 06:29:02 AM 1059 Views
They were the same strength... fionwe1987 - 30/12/2015 06:55:18 AM 1116 Views
Thanks Sidious - 30/12/2015 07:44:22 AM 986 Views
Not really strange... fionwe1987 - 30/12/2015 08:02:04 AM 1120 Views
Siuan was also a wilder, she was sent to TV when the spark manifested darius_sedai - 30/12/2015 03:50:17 PM 1068 Views
Not sure that works fionwe1987 - 30/12/2015 07:17:27 AM 1123 Views
Part of this is also about an individual's personality darius_sedai - 30/12/2015 04:40:28 PM 1382 Views
Re: Part of this is also about an individual's personality Sidious - 30/12/2015 05:10:50 PM 1156 Views
Re: Part of this is also about an individual's personality darius_sedai - 30/12/2015 05:52:41 PM 1096 Views
Re: Part of this is also about an individual's personality Sidious - 30/12/2015 06:15:36 PM 1220 Views
Totally darius_sedai - 30/12/2015 06:46:14 PM 1197 Views
On Rand and Ishamael gban007 - 01/01/2016 09:20:35 PM 1027 Views
Re: On Rand and Ishamael darius_sedai - 02/01/2016 01:18:07 AM 950 Views
True gban007 - 02/01/2016 05:39:12 AM 1111 Views
Re: True darius_sedai - 02/01/2016 07:52:33 PM 1032 Views
Re: True gban007 - 02/01/2016 10:56:39 PM 1076 Views
The more I look at this the more I think you are both right and wrong darius_sedai - 12/01/2016 09:02:57 PM 1111 Views
Re: The more I look at this the more I think you are both right and wrong Sidious - 16/01/2016 05:57:39 AM 1451 Views
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