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Re: On Rand and Ishamael darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 02/01/2016 01:18:07 AM

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Just to put my 2 cents into the overall conversation on this thread

Do some of the issues we see with the power looking to change from the early books to later books revolve around Rand and Ishamael?

If so, is there potential that rather than the power changing, that Rand and Ishamael being the champions of light and shadow respectively, have a general innate strength, equivalent to others of 1++ strength, but that at times they become conduits of light / shadow, and so their apparent strength is even higher at those times?

I see this potentially supported by Rand's view of the forsaken in the first book, with the threads they had to the shadow and the differences between Aginor's and Ishamael's, and Rand's display against the shadow at Tarwin's Gap in the first book as well.



And let's not forget that Ishamael wasn't actually using the OP all of the time. He utilized the True Power most of the time and that seems to involve being as strong as the Dark One allows you to be rather than some innate strength level.

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One Power strength: let's play with numbers Sidious - 18/12/2015 01:09:06 PM 2633 Views
Actually, I largely agree fionwe1987 - 18/12/2015 03:33:27 PM 1235 Views
Yup ... note how silent he's been since the Companion came out *NM* darius_sedai - 18/12/2015 05:50:44 PM 702 Views
I've been silent because the Companion is a joke and hardly worth pointing out all the errors... Shannow - 19/12/2015 09:37:53 AM 1295 Views
Clearly there are mistakes in the Companion darius_sedai - 19/12/2015 03:28:49 PM 1264 Views
fionwe1987 - 19/12/2015 05:52:29 PM 1174 Views
It is easy to accept the Companion. All you have to do is reject the evidence in the books. Shannow - 19/12/2015 06:58:41 PM 1263 Views
No... fionwe1987 - 19/12/2015 08:59:58 PM 1249 Views
And let's not forget Mylen darius_sedai - 21/12/2015 09:07:27 PM 1326 Views
Splitting flows: the Great Aes Sedai mixup fionwe1987 - 22/12/2015 01:34:54 AM 1813 Views
Re: Splitting flows: the Great Aes Sedai mixup Sidious - 22/12/2015 06:05:02 AM 1413 Views
I have a theory on why darius_sedai - 23/12/2015 05:26:52 PM 1059 Views
Re: I have a theory on why Sidious - 24/12/2015 09:44:44 AM 1128 Views
Well it is stated as being difficult and grows with each additional split darius_sedai - 24/12/2015 07:32:48 PM 1223 Views
Re: Well it is stated as being difficult and grows with each additional split fionwe1987 - 24/12/2015 11:37:35 PM 1042 Views
That's why I brought it up ... Seemed like that's what RJ wanted us to see darius_sedai - 25/12/2015 11:48:20 PM 1312 Views
How I see Traveling... fionwe1987 - 24/12/2015 11:35:30 PM 1154 Views
Re: How I see Traveling... Sidious - 26/12/2015 10:43:13 AM 1169 Views
Re: How I see Traveling... fionwe1987 - 29/12/2015 02:34:58 AM 1158 Views
Re: How I see Traveling... Sidious - 30/12/2015 07:41:43 AM 1356 Views
Re: How I see Traveling... darius_sedai - 01/01/2016 08:33:34 PM 1163 Views
Some thoughts Sidious - 20/12/2015 09:29:28 AM 1198 Views
My response to your thoughts... Shannow - 20/12/2015 07:19:15 PM 1315 Views
My thoughts on your thoughts Sidious - 21/12/2015 02:34:38 PM 1083 Views
Re: My thoughts on your thoughts darius_sedai - 21/12/2015 08:55:40 PM 1148 Views
How do you come to these conclusions when the books so obviously refute them? darius_sedai - 03/01/2016 03:30:53 AM 1154 Views
Re: Some thoughts DomA - 22/12/2015 06:21:41 PM 1333 Views
No palpitations here ... I pretty much agree with all of this *NM* darius_sedai - 18/12/2015 05:50:08 PM 660 Views
Well this is inconvenient Sidious - 19/12/2015 07:38:30 AM 1103 Views
hahaha darius_sedai - 19/12/2015 03:09:41 PM 1142 Views
Moraine and Siuan level in NS darius_sedai - 30/12/2015 02:13:05 AM 1124 Views
Here are my thoughts Sidious - 30/12/2015 06:29:02 AM 1147 Views
They were the same strength... fionwe1987 - 30/12/2015 06:55:18 AM 1186 Views
Thanks Sidious - 30/12/2015 07:44:22 AM 1041 Views
Not really strange... fionwe1987 - 30/12/2015 08:02:04 AM 1184 Views
Siuan was also a wilder, she was sent to TV when the spark manifested darius_sedai - 30/12/2015 03:50:17 PM 1139 Views
Not sure that works fionwe1987 - 30/12/2015 07:17:27 AM 1208 Views
Part of this is also about an individual's personality darius_sedai - 30/12/2015 04:40:28 PM 1465 Views
Re: Part of this is also about an individual's personality Sidious - 30/12/2015 05:10:50 PM 1236 Views
Re: Part of this is also about an individual's personality darius_sedai - 30/12/2015 05:52:41 PM 1169 Views
Re: Part of this is also about an individual's personality Sidious - 30/12/2015 06:15:36 PM 1283 Views
Totally darius_sedai - 30/12/2015 06:46:14 PM 1266 Views
On Rand and Ishamael gban007 - 01/01/2016 09:20:35 PM 1103 Views
Re: On Rand and Ishamael darius_sedai - 02/01/2016 01:18:07 AM 1013 Views
True gban007 - 02/01/2016 05:39:12 AM 1184 Views
Re: True darius_sedai - 02/01/2016 07:52:33 PM 1094 Views
Re: True gban007 - 02/01/2016 10:56:39 PM 1138 Views
The more I look at this the more I think you are both right and wrong darius_sedai - 12/01/2016 09:02:57 PM 1197 Views
Re: The more I look at this the more I think you are both right and wrong Sidious - 16/01/2016 05:57:39 AM 1563 Views
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