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Re: Where's the racism and homophobia in WOT? kHz1000 Send a noteboard - 10/01/2016 12:12:01 AM

View original postI think there are many moments of macro-racism (Illianes and Tariens despise one another as do Taraboners and Domani).

The nationalistic feeling is pretty understandable, given how their rules are constantly pushing the people to war with one another. But it's more akin to "russophobia" than racism.
In fact the only cross national respect we really see is from the Bordelanders, but that probably has to do with the high degree of cultural similarity amongst them, coupled with a common enemy with the blight.

I'd go with the Blight, since I don't see this cultural similarity. Besides the warrior mentality, and even that seems different (Arafellian duelling and their perception of honour come to mind. Was that meant to imply that they had somehow been influenced by ji'e'toh? Like Alanna's need to be punished for her perceived failure during Egwene's Test).
Homosexuality just seems totally unremarkable in the series. Pillow friends and such are taken as a simple matter of course as is lesbianism.

At least in the Tower, yeah. But for Tarna, it was clearly something that's OK for younger girls, but not really an option for adult women. I suppose she was more of a "situational lesbian". And for Galina, I can imagine her using sexuality as a way to control and dominate. She must have approached other young Red sisters besides Tarna; many would have found it difficult to decline due to her position, making her plot with Therava all the more poignant.
Jordan has some peculiar ideas about how being gay works, but he clearly didn't make it any kind of social stigma

How do you mean? I just remember the Kandori man who was fussy about his appearance

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What Logain quote are you referencing? *NM* darius_sedai - 11/01/2016 06:07:57 PM 858 Views
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