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kHz1000 Send a noteboard - 20/10/2016 07:14:51 PM

Yet this is never really played out in the books.

Sadly no, but then again none of our main PoV characters know much or have any desire to learn about the Reds. Yet they enjoy a measure of respect, the Yellow and Gray support the Red over the Blue in the Hall (in NS). Maybe they're better than we know.

View original postGreens, while obviously military in their organization, seem to be vastly more prepared to root out communities of Dark friends. Not that we really see them do much either, but the Greens we do encounter are much more likely to be out in the world engaging in fighting the forces of the Dark One which would imply that they are more likely to sniff out DFs than a group of Reds who are singularly hunting for male channelers, who are not by definition aligned with the DO.

I would assume the Greens place heavy emphasis on the Borderlands. They are interested in battles against Trollocs and preparing to counter Dreadlords, not going after sneaky, cowardly Darkfriends. The Red network of eyes-and-ears on the lookout for anything suspicious (uncommon luck, strange deaths, etc.) that could imply male channeling seems more suited to stumbling on the occasional DF plot, even if only by accident.

View original postI suppose my issue with this reason for Pevara choosing Red is that it feels irrelevant to me. It's like someone deciding to join Homeland Security instead of the Army because their family was killed by gang violence. There doesn't appear to be any real direct correlation in the choice of one over the other. What did the Red offer her that the Green could not in terms of stopping DFs?

Honestly, dunno. Could have been a coincidence? Perhaps she was taken in by some Red AS with a great reputation for sniffing out DFs.

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Noticed something odd darius_sedai - 13/10/2016 09:31:54 PM 1064 Views

Familiarity breeds contempt? Cannoli - 14/10/2016 12:41:44 AM 935 Views

I can see how this would keep a woman from attaining the Shawl darius_sedai - 14/10/2016 03:00:32 PM 555 Views

Re: Familiarity breeds contempt? kHz1000 - 17/10/2016 06:35:20 PM 696 Views

Ironically, that was a rather ill-informed comment Cannoli - 18/10/2016 11:25:44 AM 633 Views

Re: Ironically, that was a rather ill-informed comment darius_sedai - 18/10/2016 03:54:23 PM 575 Views

Well the Seanchan. even more than the Aiel, are a completely alien culture Cannoli - 19/10/2016 12:09:01 AM 671 Views

Possible, yet we know there are also "arms men" throughout every nobles lands darius_sedai - 19/10/2016 04:38:39 AM 579 Views

Re: Ironically, that was a rather ill-informed comment kHz1000 - 18/10/2016 04:02:54 PM 552 Views

Re: Ironically, that was a rather ill-informed comment darius_sedai - 18/10/2016 05:03:58 PM 499 Views

Re: Ironically, that was a rather ill-informed comment kHz1000 - 18/10/2016 07:18:13 PM 642 Views

I think politics keeps women away from the Blue darius_sedai - 18/10/2016 10:20:50 PM 531 Views

I think it's RJ's gender commentary - Blue are ambitious, which is not a stereotypical female trait Cannoli - 19/10/2016 02:57:51 AM 725 Views

By and large agree ... more thoughts on this tomorrow when I'm in front of my computer, on iPad now *NM* darius_sedai - 19/10/2016 05:19:20 AM 276 Views

Re: I think it's RJ's gender commentary kHz1000 - 19/10/2016 01:01:14 PM 572 Views

Sorry, I am gonna ramble a bit

darius_sedai - 19/10/2016 09:19:01 PM 692 Views

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kHz1000 - 19/10/2016 09:48:17 PM 509 Views

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darius_sedai - 20/10/2016 06:13:27 PM 606 Views

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kHz1000 - 20/10/2016 07:14:51 PM 479 Views

I guess that's my issue with it darius_sedai - 20/10/2016 09:53:38 PM 619 Views

Technically men would only be a threat up to a certain age(which they should know) unless trained.. Dunstan - 21/10/2016 08:47:20 AM 731 Views

Male sparkers can spark as late as 30 or so darius_sedai - 21/10/2016 03:16:26 PM 513 Views

Grays=political power... How exactly? Dunstan - 21/10/2016 08:38:07 AM 553 Views

Re: Grays=political power... How exactly? kHz1000 - 21/10/2016 09:21:13 AM 653 Views

Comparative to joining the Red is how I meant that darius_sedai - 21/10/2016 03:22:46 PM 571 Views

The Seanchan are not a military culture. That's why they are so good at it. Cannoli - 19/10/2016 12:21:36 AM 580 Views

Forget the "locals"... IIRC Aes Sedai have kids "rarely" not "never". Dunstan - 14/10/2016 06:40:56 AM 550 Views

Another good point! darius_sedai - 14/10/2016 03:28:44 PM 539 Views

... Oh! I get it it now. The Tower likely just sends sisters out of the city to have their kids. lol Dunstan - 14/10/2016 04:38:30 PM 515 Views

I think the numbers of Aes Sedai mothers really are very very low, or secret Cannoli - 15/10/2016 01:10:11 AM 733 Views

Re: Noticed something odd Zalvera - 11/11/2016 12:54:24 AM 669 Views

Possibly, darius_sedai - 11/11/2016 08:45:15 PM 744 Views

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<quote>Yet this is never really played out in the books.</quote>
Sadly no, but then again none of our main PoV characters know much or have any desire to learn about the Reds. Yet they enjoy a measure of respect, the Yellow and Gray support the Red over the Blue in the Hall (in NS). Maybe they're better than we know.

<quote id="291280">Greens, while obviously military in their organization, seem to be vastly more prepared to root out communities of Dark friends.  Not that we really see them do much either, but the Greens we do encounter are much more likely to be out in the world engaging in fighting the forces of the Dark One which would imply that they are more likely to sniff out DFs than a group of Reds who are singularly hunting for male channelers, who are not by definition aligned with the DO.</quote>
I would assume the Greens place heavy emphasis on the Borderlands. They are interested in battles against Trollocs and preparing to counter Dreadlords, not going after sneaky, cowardly Darkfriends. The Red network of eyes-and-ears on the lookout for anything suspicious (uncommon luck, strange deaths, etc.) that could imply male channeling seems more suited to stumbling on the occasional DF plot, even if only by accident.

<quote id="291280">I suppose my issue with this reason for Pevara choosing Red is that it feels irrelevant to me.  It's like someone deciding to join Homeland Security instead of the Army because their family was killed by gang violence. There doesn't appear to be any real direct correlation in the choice of one over the other.  What did the Red offer her that the Green could not in terms of stopping DFs?  </quote>
Honestly, dunno. Could have been a coincidence? Perhaps she was taken in by some Red AS with a great reputation for sniffing out DFs.

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