It's almost irrelevant- the Dragon Reborn was Foretold
beetnemesis Send a noteboard - 18/10/2009 02:07:47 AM
Foretelling always happens. Always Just like with Min's visions. Sometimes there's an if/than statement (Min's definitely had those, I forget if Elaida has, it's been implied that Gitara did), but if something is Foretold to happen, it'll happen.
So, it makes this conversation kind of iffy. If Moiraine hadn't come, it stands to reason that Rand would have been declared in some other way. Or perhaps it is because of Moiraine's natural stubborness and drive that this was Foretold.
All those other realities couldn't have happened, for the very reason that Rand wasn't the proclaimed Dragon in them.
So, it makes this conversation kind of iffy. If Moiraine hadn't come, it stands to reason that Rand would have been declared in some other way. Or perhaps it is because of Moiraine's natural stubborness and drive that this was Foretold.
All those other realities couldn't have happened, for the very reason that Rand wasn't the proclaimed Dragon in them.
I amuse myself.
Which character (besides Rand) has hurt the shadow the most? (my analysis and your opinion)
17/10/2009 05:16:34 AM
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I'd say Mat
17/10/2009 04:40:48 PM
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are you sure?
17/10/2009 04:48:01 PM
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Not to downplay Nynaeve
17/10/2009 08:40:45 PM
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Beg to differ, the "endless summer" was VERY important to the shadow
17/10/2009 10:44:15 PM
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Re: Beg to differ, the "endless summer" was VERY important to the shadow
18/10/2009 11:10:20 PM
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believe what you want, but if the weather hadn't changed when it did TG would be over by now. *NM*
18/10/2009 11:56:09 PM
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It has to be Moiraine
17/10/2009 05:00:32 PM
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Actually there were a couple of versions that happened, and Moiraine came in neither.
17/10/2009 05:32:52 PM
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So you think the story would have panned out
17/10/2009 05:46:46 PM
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That's highly subjective
17/10/2009 08:52:17 PM
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I think you know exactly what I mean.
17/10/2009 10:53:40 PM
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All of them
18/10/2009 12:09:55 AM
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Those were only visions
18/10/2009 12:45:32 AM
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They may have only been visions...
18/10/2009 09:19:05 AM
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"Every possible outcome to a given situation is the actual outcome somewhere"
18/10/2009 04:45:44 PM
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Re: "Every possible outcome to a given situation is the actual outcome somewhere"
18/10/2009 06:51:42 PM
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It's almost irrelevant- the Dragon Reborn was Foretold
18/10/2009 02:07:47 AM
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Does that mean he'd win?
18/10/2009 04:47:56 PM
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IIRC the prophecies don't say anything about whether the DR will win.
18/10/2009 05:05:03 PM
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Re: Which character (besides Rand) has hurt the shadow the most? (my analysis and your opinion)
17/10/2009 05:26:26 PM
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Someone needs to re-adjust their meds
18/10/2009 05:55:58 AM
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I wouldn't bother justifying yourself to him
18/10/2009 05:41:42 PM
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That is true for most people if not all
18/10/2009 11:28:44 PM
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He's got a point though...
21/10/2009 11:18:38 AM
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"Always fight back! Never justify" Internet discussion rules 101.
21/10/2009 04:37:32 PM
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Ishamael/Moridin
17/10/2009 06:44:35 PM
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Good call
17/10/2009 10:55:38 PM
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Not to mention I think he's more interested in self preservation at this moment
18/10/2009 07:18:28 AM
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lol It goes to show that even when you think you're doing evil, the Pattern makes it good. *NM*
18/10/2009 06:25:08 PM
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You make it sound very simple
18/10/2009 10:47:57 PM
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No - it is very simple
19/10/2009 05:01:44 AM
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I'm going with Nynaeve.
18/10/2009 06:23:55 PM
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