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All of them ranagrande Send a noteboard - 18/10/2009 12:09:55 AM
without her anyway?

My memory of the books isn't as great as yours, but how many of the alternative futures ends well for Rand?

If I were Rand, I might have preferred some of those alternate lives to the one he has now.



Which one of those ends in Rand winning/shadow losing?
I can safely say this because we have been told the great paradox: "If the Dark One breaks free in one world, he will be free in all of them, but as long as he is imprisoned in at least one world, he is imprisoned in them all."

Sure, Rand repeatedly heard a voice proclaim "I have won again Lews Therin," but even he recognized that it was a lie. We know that the shadow cannot have won in any of those other worlds because it is still fighting for a victory in the "real" world.
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Which character (besides Rand) has hurt the shadow the most? (my analysis and your opinion) RabidWombat - 17/10/2009 05:16:34 AM 2013 Views
Nyneave wins hands down Isaac - 17/10/2009 05:22:08 AM 1222 Views
Nyneave has done more fairfax - 17/10/2009 06:42:26 AM 1174 Views
Nynaeve! Fantasy - 17/10/2009 04:12:00 PM 1077 Views
I'd say Mat BlackAdder - 17/10/2009 04:40:48 PM 1136 Views
are you sure? NaClH2O - 17/10/2009 04:48:01 PM 1164 Views
Not to downplay Nynaeve BlackAdder - 17/10/2009 08:40:45 PM 1169 Views
Beg to differ, the "endless summer" was VERY important to the shadow NaClH2O - 17/10/2009 10:44:15 PM 1368 Views
Re: Beg to differ, the "endless summer" was VERY important to the shadow BlackAdder - 18/10/2009 11:10:20 PM 1126 Views
believe what you want, but if the weather hadn't changed when it did TG would be over by now. *NM* NaClH2O - 18/10/2009 11:56:09 PM 531 Views
Actually, there might be a better reason for why it mattered. Lord Haart - 10/12/2009 07:03:32 PM 1123 Views
Immaterial. NaClH2O - 10/12/2009 07:48:51 PM 1000 Views
It has to be Moiraine TheCrownless - 17/10/2009 05:00:32 PM 1186 Views
Actually there were a couple of versions that happened, and Moiraine came in neither. Cannoli - 17/10/2009 05:32:52 PM 1321 Views
So you think the story would have panned out TheCrownless - 17/10/2009 05:46:46 PM 1024 Views
None. *NM* BlackAdder - 17/10/2009 08:43:08 PM 507 Views
That's highly subjective ranagrande - 17/10/2009 08:52:17 PM 1129 Views
Re: That's highly subjective BlackAdder - 17/10/2009 08:54:52 PM 1008 Views
I think you know exactly what I mean. TheCrownless - 17/10/2009 10:53:40 PM 1034 Views
All of them ranagrande - 18/10/2009 12:09:55 AM 1148 Views
Those were only visions TheCrownless - 18/10/2009 12:45:32 AM 1042 Views
They may have only been visions... ranagrande - 18/10/2009 09:19:05 AM 1121 Views
"Every possible outcome to a given situation is the actual outcome somewhere" TheCrownless - 18/10/2009 04:45:44 PM 1037 Views
Re: "Every possible outcome to a given situation is the actual outcome somewhere" ranagrande - 18/10/2009 06:51:42 PM 1181 Views
That all goes without saying TheCrownless - 18/10/2009 07:26:06 PM 956 Views
I disagree ranagrande - 18/10/2009 07:58:37 PM 1095 Views
Re: I disagree TheCrownless - 18/10/2009 10:04:27 PM 1071 Views
It's almost irrelevant- the Dragon Reborn was Foretold beetnemesis - 18/10/2009 02:07:47 AM 1089 Views
Does that mean he'd win? TheCrownless - 18/10/2009 04:47:56 PM 1052 Views
IIRC the prophecies don't say anything about whether the DR will win. BlackAdder - 18/10/2009 05:05:03 PM 1029 Views
Not really what I was arguing. TheCrownless - 18/10/2009 05:30:05 PM 1037 Views
Good points RabidWombat - 18/10/2009 06:14:08 AM 1130 Views
the BCS is not a good system *NM* ranagrande - 18/10/2009 09:08:25 AM 524 Views
Re: Which character (besides Rand) has hurt the shadow the most? (my analysis and your opinion) Cannoli - 17/10/2009 05:26:26 PM 1323 Views
Someone needs to re-adjust their meds RabidWombat - 18/10/2009 05:55:58 AM 1197 Views
I wouldn't bother justifying yourself to him TheCrownless - 18/10/2009 05:41:42 PM 1040 Views
That is true for most people if not all RabidWombat - 18/10/2009 11:28:44 PM 1088 Views
He's got a point though... Cannoli - 21/10/2009 11:18:38 AM 1121 Views
"Always fight back! Never justify" Internet discussion rules 101. TheCrownless - 21/10/2009 04:37:32 PM 999 Views
Damn skippy! *NM* Cannoli - 21/10/2009 11:17:36 AM 503 Views
Ishamael/Moridin Sidious - 17/10/2009 06:44:35 PM 1430 Views
Good call TheCrownless - 17/10/2009 10:55:38 PM 1114 Views
Not to mention I think he's more interested in self preservation at this moment Ryan - 18/10/2009 07:18:28 AM 981 Views
Re: Ishamael/Moridin ranagrande - 18/10/2009 09:21:29 AM 1236 Views
lol It goes to show that even when you think you're doing evil, the Pattern makes it good. *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 18/10/2009 06:25:08 PM 499 Views
You make it sound very simple BlackAdder - 18/10/2009 10:47:57 PM 1164 Views
No - it is very simple Sidious - 19/10/2009 05:01:44 AM 1112 Views
Not necessarily- Digital_Eon - 19/10/2009 09:22:16 PM 1125 Views
surely a draw meant resealing TheCrownless - 20/10/2009 03:56:49 PM 1030 Views
I'm going with Nynaeve. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 18/10/2009 06:23:55 PM 1136 Views
Re: I'm going with Nynaeve. BlackAdder - 18/10/2009 10:56:06 PM 1237 Views
Re: I'm going with Nynaeve. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 18/10/2009 11:22:36 PM 1175 Views
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