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That all goes without saying TheCrownless Send a noteboard - 18/10/2009 07:26:06 PM
But in that case everyones actions are meaningless, Rand might aswell go to Illian docks and make himself available to sailors for the "good" stuff.
We know the Dark One doesn't win, otherwise it would be a rubbish story.
You have to look at these things in a relative way, important to the story, not the paradoxical universe that could never happen and is just the figment of someones imagination.

You're trying to argue philosophy (a poor excuse for actual science) with the wrong person. Without Moiraine the DO would have Rand and would be free and have won, end of story.
Come to the dark side, We have candy!

I'm Israel, he's Palestine, its more fun when you pick sides.
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Which character (besides Rand) has hurt the shadow the most? (my analysis and your opinion) RabidWombat - 17/10/2009 05:16:34 AM 1911 Views
Nyneave wins hands down Isaac - 17/10/2009 05:22:08 AM 1143 Views
Nyneave has done more fairfax - 17/10/2009 06:42:26 AM 1083 Views
Nynaeve! Fantasy - 17/10/2009 04:12:00 PM 1016 Views
I'd say Mat BlackAdder - 17/10/2009 04:40:48 PM 1075 Views
are you sure? NaClH2O - 17/10/2009 04:48:01 PM 1105 Views
Not to downplay Nynaeve BlackAdder - 17/10/2009 08:40:45 PM 1095 Views
Beg to differ, the "endless summer" was VERY important to the shadow NaClH2O - 17/10/2009 10:44:15 PM 1299 Views
Re: Beg to differ, the "endless summer" was VERY important to the shadow BlackAdder - 18/10/2009 11:10:20 PM 1054 Views
believe what you want, but if the weather hadn't changed when it did TG would be over by now. *NM* NaClH2O - 18/10/2009 11:56:09 PM 490 Views
Actually, there might be a better reason for why it mattered. Lord Haart - 10/12/2009 07:03:32 PM 1058 Views
Immaterial. NaClH2O - 10/12/2009 07:48:51 PM 939 Views
It has to be Moiraine TheCrownless - 17/10/2009 05:00:32 PM 1114 Views
Actually there were a couple of versions that happened, and Moiraine came in neither. Cannoli - 17/10/2009 05:32:52 PM 1249 Views
So you think the story would have panned out TheCrownless - 17/10/2009 05:46:46 PM 962 Views
None. *NM* BlackAdder - 17/10/2009 08:43:08 PM 471 Views
That's highly subjective ranagrande - 17/10/2009 08:52:17 PM 1033 Views
Re: That's highly subjective BlackAdder - 17/10/2009 08:54:52 PM 950 Views
I think you know exactly what I mean. TheCrownless - 17/10/2009 10:53:40 PM 972 Views
All of them ranagrande - 18/10/2009 12:09:55 AM 1075 Views
Those were only visions TheCrownless - 18/10/2009 12:45:32 AM 981 Views
They may have only been visions... ranagrande - 18/10/2009 09:19:05 AM 1055 Views
"Every possible outcome to a given situation is the actual outcome somewhere" TheCrownless - 18/10/2009 04:45:44 PM 972 Views
Re: "Every possible outcome to a given situation is the actual outcome somewhere" ranagrande - 18/10/2009 06:51:42 PM 1109 Views
That all goes without saying TheCrownless - 18/10/2009 07:26:06 PM 890 Views
I disagree ranagrande - 18/10/2009 07:58:37 PM 1028 Views
Re: I disagree TheCrownless - 18/10/2009 10:04:27 PM 998 Views
It's almost irrelevant- the Dragon Reborn was Foretold beetnemesis - 18/10/2009 02:07:47 AM 1007 Views
Does that mean he'd win? TheCrownless - 18/10/2009 04:47:56 PM 992 Views
IIRC the prophecies don't say anything about whether the DR will win. BlackAdder - 18/10/2009 05:05:03 PM 959 Views
Not really what I was arguing. TheCrownless - 18/10/2009 05:30:05 PM 959 Views
Good points RabidWombat - 18/10/2009 06:14:08 AM 1055 Views
the BCS is not a good system *NM* ranagrande - 18/10/2009 09:08:25 AM 489 Views
Re: Which character (besides Rand) has hurt the shadow the most? (my analysis and your opinion) Cannoli - 17/10/2009 05:26:26 PM 1249 Views
Someone needs to re-adjust their meds RabidWombat - 18/10/2009 05:55:58 AM 1135 Views
I wouldn't bother justifying yourself to him TheCrownless - 18/10/2009 05:41:42 PM 978 Views
That is true for most people if not all RabidWombat - 18/10/2009 11:28:44 PM 1020 Views
He's got a point though... Cannoli - 21/10/2009 11:18:38 AM 1065 Views
"Always fight back! Never justify" Internet discussion rules 101. TheCrownless - 21/10/2009 04:37:32 PM 932 Views
Damn skippy! *NM* Cannoli - 21/10/2009 11:17:36 AM 463 Views
Ishamael/Moridin Sidious - 17/10/2009 06:44:35 PM 1320 Views
Good call TheCrownless - 17/10/2009 10:55:38 PM 1050 Views
Not to mention I think he's more interested in self preservation at this moment Ryan - 18/10/2009 07:18:28 AM 916 Views
Re: Ishamael/Moridin ranagrande - 18/10/2009 09:21:29 AM 1169 Views
lol It goes to show that even when you think you're doing evil, the Pattern makes it good. *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 18/10/2009 06:25:08 PM 459 Views
You make it sound very simple BlackAdder - 18/10/2009 10:47:57 PM 1088 Views
No - it is very simple Sidious - 19/10/2009 05:01:44 AM 1042 Views
Not necessarily- Digital_Eon - 19/10/2009 09:22:16 PM 1041 Views
surely a draw meant resealing TheCrownless - 20/10/2009 03:56:49 PM 951 Views
I'm going with Nynaeve. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 18/10/2009 06:23:55 PM 1067 Views
Re: I'm going with Nynaeve. BlackAdder - 18/10/2009 10:56:06 PM 1156 Views
Re: I'm going with Nynaeve. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 18/10/2009 11:22:36 PM 1077 Views
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