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I got teary-eyed during that chapter Asha'man Send a noteboard - 30/10/2009 02:21:20 PM

So Verin is Black Ajah. Let's be honest, this topic has been in the back of our minds ever since she supposedly lied to Mat about being sent by Moiraine. I was devastated when she finally said she's from the Black, but not too surprised. She's always been one of the more amusing and useful Aes Sedai.

So, some points I want to make...

1. Her philosophy on the Dark One seems to be that of Ishamael's, and he's always been unique in this regard. I found it refreshing to have a darkfriend who wasn't after immortality or power, but was considering the nature of evil as dispassionately as someone who's analyzing a chess board.

2. In my mind, she's part of a group of people who are darkfriends, but are so bad at being evil they might as well not be. The other example is Ingtar, maybe Sheriam too. Verin was faced with the choice of joining them or being executed. She made a human decision which was wrong but understandable. I don't really condemn people who break from fear, and few people who say that they'll die for their beliefs have the stomach to go through it - especially facing someone like Galina or Katerine. Verin is therefore also like a forced turning to me.

3. She sacrificed herself to destroy them - she had to, to circumvent the Oath. I always find this to be the sign of a person filled with remorse, and someone who should be forgiven - like Ingtar.

She's therefore still a favourite character of mine... tarnished a little, but still a fond memory with her ink smudge on her nose.


Why is she "tarnished" though?!

Her defection makes me like her even more!
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Verin... cool in my eyes - 30/10/2009 07:29:38 AM 1581 Views
Re: Verin... cool in my eyes - 30/10/2009 12:19:26 PM 947 Views
At first she was studying.... - 02/11/2009 01:24:47 PM 585 Views
I got teary-eyed during that chapter - 30/10/2009 02:21:20 PM 739 Views
She's still a darkfriend - 30/10/2009 03:29:22 PM 870 Views
There's a difference between a terrorist and a double agent. - 30/10/2009 06:32:42 PM 667 Views
Re: There's a difference between a terrorist and a double agent. - 31/10/2009 05:23:29 AM 778 Views
Re: There's a difference between a terrorist and a double agent. - 31/10/2009 05:34:57 AM 746 Views
Re: There's a difference between a terrorist and a double agent. - 31/10/2009 05:52:12 AM 601 Views
Re: There's a difference between a terrorist and a double agent. - 31/10/2009 06:00:12 AM 741 Views
So when do we start executing that FBI agents in the columbian drug cartel? - 31/10/2009 04:51:08 PM 594 Views
You're confusing morality with legality, no? *NM* - 31/10/2009 04:56:55 PM 278 Views
depends what he does in that time I guess - 31/10/2009 05:28:04 PM 675 Views
Possibly my favourite scene. - 30/10/2009 02:34:48 PM 841 Views
Re: Possibly my favourite scene. - 30/10/2009 02:46:20 PM 792 Views
Re: Possibly my favourite scene. - 30/10/2009 03:09:38 PM 753 Views
It makes sense though. - 31/10/2009 02:25:21 AM 588 Views
Re: Verin... cool in my eyes - 30/10/2009 04:54:50 PM 807 Views
Not tarnished at all, in my mind... - 30/10/2009 05:16:43 PM 737 Views
Definitely. She was a double agent from the beginning. - 30/10/2009 06:31:26 PM 753 Views
That's the way I'm leaning... - 30/10/2009 07:07:01 PM 670 Views
Agreed - 01/11/2009 12:58:37 PM 599 Views
What crap! - 30/10/2009 09:47:08 PM 776 Views
Verin has reached a point. - 31/10/2009 03:56:44 AM 673 Views
I hope the Verin Memorial Statueâ„¢ spouts water from the ink smudge on her nose *NM* - 31/10/2009 04:25:46 AM 352 Views
Logically, it would be ink spouting from her pen in her hand. - 31/10/2009 04:34:36 AM 599 Views
It should be animatronic - 31/10/2009 04:37:08 AM 629 Views
"That dress is green." - 31/10/2009 04:47:12 AM 753 Views
how did I miss that one? *NM* - 31/10/2009 04:48:54 AM 342 Views
*shrugs* *NM* - 31/10/2009 05:19:03 AM 325 Views
That would look kind of gross I think *NM* - 31/10/2009 05:24:00 AM 306 Views
gross, or awesome? *NM* - 31/10/2009 05:32:13 AM 322 Views
Come to think of it, it'd look like drippy snot. *NM* - 31/10/2009 05:35:41 AM 276 Views
it should drip into a fountain full of animatronic Professor-looking birds teaching fish how to fly *NM* - 31/10/2009 05:42:10 AM 344 Views
With a flame above one hand, and a pen in the other. *NM* - 31/10/2009 05:43:29 AM 298 Views
There need to be some sort of flashy lights representing her soul changing colors *NM* - 31/10/2009 05:45:03 AM 350 Views
Also, it must be cuendillar. - 01/11/2009 12:00:10 AM 662 Views
*loves* *NM* - 31/10/2009 04:41:35 PM 273 Views
Not really much of a difference between brown and black. - 31/10/2009 05:50:25 AM 638 Views
Re: Verin... cool in my eyes - 31/10/2009 11:21:33 AM 728 Views
So how about that "last hour" part of her oath? - 31/10/2009 04:48:29 PM 666 Views
That's a really strange loophole, to be honest - 31/10/2009 05:04:25 PM 721 Views
Its simple really... - 31/10/2009 10:02:19 PM 736 Views
That's not really good enough, though. - 31/10/2009 10:06:12 PM 739 Views
Re: That's not really good enough, though. - 31/10/2009 10:50:36 PM 652 Views
Right. The essential point stands, though. - 01/11/2009 12:08:45 AM 719 Views
Re: Right. The essential point stands, though. - 01/11/2009 12:19:23 AM 570 Views

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