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That is just POV trap redhand Send a noteboard - 31/10/2009 04:20:07 PM
I'm talking about the leashing and the control that offers. Not every slight injustice that ever happened to channlers ever.


You see a lot of POV from channelers, but how many POV from regular folks? For the cultures, you see TR, and Aiel, the cultures with the most freedom for the regular folks. How about Tear, WC country, or even Andor? The regular folks are leashed and controlled by swords and whips, not Adam, but it is the same thing.

You think the army seiging Camlyn go there by their choice? They go there because the big Houses commanded them. Those people are just as free as damane.

You have so much conceern for damane because the vocal minority of channelers keep talking, while the silent majority of non-channelers are not heard.
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Is anyone angered by the Seanchan and a'dam? TheCrownless - 30/10/2009 11:14:00 PM 1764 Views
Yes, but not me Deadsy - 30/10/2009 11:32:45 PM 1024 Views
Re: Yes, but not me Saruto - 31/10/2009 12:49:42 AM 993 Views
I hated him Deadsy - 31/10/2009 12:57:52 AM 964 Views
Re: Is anyone angry by the Seanchan and A'dam itsjustme - 30/10/2009 11:39:45 PM 1161 Views
Re: Is anyone angry by the Seanchan and A'dam itsjustme - 30/10/2009 11:45:29 PM 1001 Views
Except the Seanchan are not spoiled chidlren who mistake "wishful thinking" for a plan Cannoli - 31/10/2009 04:48:45 AM 1056 Views
Or he could have used the Choedan Kal TheCrownless - 31/10/2009 12:21:42 PM 1000 Views
What Choedan Kal? *NM* Cannoli - 31/10/2009 10:15:24 PM 405 Views
The big shiney ball thing he destroyed at the end of the book TheCrownless - 01/11/2009 07:50:15 PM 934 Views
Destroyed. My point exactly. *NM* Cannoli - 06/11/2009 04:40:16 AM 386 Views
For what? Great Lord of Chaos - 31/10/2009 12:03:57 AM 993 Views
if he was it wasn't on purpose. I think he was just actively trying to use his ta'verenness *NM* Deadsy - 31/10/2009 12:15:32 AM 411 Views
I dont think it's compulsion. TheCrownless - 31/10/2009 12:16:00 AM 920 Views
Actually, I think it's the other way around. Great Lord of Chaos - 31/10/2009 12:21:49 AM 882 Views
He did the same thing with Cady TheCrownless - 31/10/2009 12:25:51 AM 911 Views
Personally, I thought he was using the TP to do those things. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 04/11/2009 07:37:31 PM 858 Views
It wasn't Compulsion...Sanderson just sort of messed up IMO Marshall - 04/11/2009 11:38:38 PM 815 Views
No Simon - 31/10/2009 12:06:13 AM 945 Views
I don't care for Tuon at all. I'd be okay if her and the Seanchan were obliterated. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 31/10/2009 12:44:22 AM 413 Views
And how is that any different from me with Egwene (except she & I are the same race)? *NM* Cannoli - 31/10/2009 04:51:17 AM 415 Views
Have I ever criticized you for disliking Egwene? TaskmasterJack - 31/10/2009 01:06:39 PM 902 Views
Why not Highlords in Tear? redhand - 31/10/2009 02:10:07 AM 1005 Views
You dont really get it. TheCrownless - 31/10/2009 12:23:35 PM 870 Views
That is just POV trap redhand - 31/10/2009 04:20:07 PM 861 Views
Flawed Argument Bookwyrm - 31/10/2009 08:54:05 PM 855 Views
Not at all. Their position is perfectly justified by their experiences. Cannoli - 31/10/2009 04:29:25 AM 991 Views
The a'dam and leashing of channelers does not change the fact that the OP can be misued... fionwe1987 - 31/10/2009 09:17:20 AM 965 Views
Which is why people should NOT be MORE angered toward Seanchan than toward WT. redhand - 31/10/2009 06:22:13 PM 878 Views
That's complete hogwash. fionwe1987 - 31/10/2009 10:23:50 PM 919 Views
Using the word "Hogwash" is inviting flames, but I will be nice about it redhand - 01/11/2009 05:44:16 AM 932 Views
Re: Using the word "Hogwash" is inviting flames, but I will be nice about it fionwe1987 - 05/11/2009 02:54:52 AM 1206 Views
Think it through Cannoli - 31/10/2009 10:25:08 PM 957 Views
I have... fionwe1987 - 31/10/2009 11:05:20 PM 947 Views
Re: I have... Cannoli - 01/11/2009 02:27:20 AM 1169 Views
Well that was rather silly. TheCrownless - 31/10/2009 12:27:03 PM 833 Views
And a generation later, the same old problem arises. New channelers, with no one to stop them. Cannoli - 31/10/2009 10:28:35 PM 835 Views
Several valid points... Legolas - 31/10/2009 05:17:09 PM 932 Views
I wonder what if Egwene happen to be a child kidnapped at Flame and sent to WT redhand - 31/10/2009 06:30:34 PM 913 Views
Your point has some validity for the actual Seanchan damane. Legolas - 31/10/2009 06:43:40 PM 994 Views
The sul'dam should be destroyed Sidious - 31/10/2009 05:14:06 AM 856 Views
The people themselves shouldn't be. Great Lord of Chaos - 31/10/2009 05:26:08 AM 887 Views
^ *NM* Deadsy - 31/10/2009 05:33:04 AM 371 Views
Only the Empress can remove the custom Sidious - 31/10/2009 05:48:09 AM 866 Views
Due to their conditioning. Great Lord of Chaos - 31/10/2009 06:03:32 AM 881 Views
She will (and ya, sul'dam become sul'dam from age 13-18 usually) *NM* Deadsy - 31/10/2009 06:12:48 AM 417 Views
Random Saragorn - 31/10/2009 10:26:34 AM 840 Views
Agreed Simon - 31/10/2009 02:52:33 PM 855 Views
I think the a'dam is the perfect solution for Blacks and the Shaido 'Wise Ones'. Gher - 01/11/2009 02:51:27 AM 943 Views
Yes. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 04/11/2009 06:15:08 PM 814 Views
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