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Graendal - maybe the deadliest Forsaken Sidious Send a noteboard - 05/11/2009 07:00:12 AM

I found Rand/Lews Therin's attitude to this Forsaken to be very interesting in this book. I've always thought that she was one of the most dangerous people in the world, but Lews Therin amplified this to a level I didn't expect.

The funny thing about this is that Lews Therin has absolutely no idea how to beat her. He knows that she can't be baited into a duel. He admits that she is more intelligent and crafty than he is. You can literally feel how every step he anticipates, he expects her to have already countered. Lews Therin is not subtle in saying that she knows more about the mind and humanity than any other person. He knows how to fight Rahvin or Sammael, or other Forsaken, but he can't fathom this one.

For this reason, he was forced to commit a mass atrocity to capture her. It was the one thing she wouldn't anticipate... or would she? Either way, although Lews Therin established his fear of falling into Semirhage's hands, he made a big scene about Graendal and her lethal nature.
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Graendal - maybe the deadliest Forsaken - 05/11/2009 07:00:12 AM 1739 Views
It has definitely been hinted - 05/11/2009 08:37:04 AM 795 Views
Graendal wasn't that deadly... - 05/11/2009 09:37:24 AM 844 Views
I think she was - 05/11/2009 02:42:48 PM 707 Views
RJ still put her in the top category of the Forsaken.. - 05/11/2009 05:24:06 PM 771 Views
I think she's the most deadly and intelligent. The others are idiots, IMHO. - 05/11/2009 06:38:30 PM 694 Views
This whole Graendal is alive-idea - 05/11/2009 07:13:16 PM 731 Views
I'm divided on it.. - 05/11/2009 07:19:07 PM 647 Views
Here's the deal, though. Semirhage actions actually followed part of the theory to a tee. - 05/11/2009 07:21:21 PM 639 Views
Ah, anyway... - 05/11/2009 07:58:05 PM 599 Views
I agree with you - 05/11/2009 07:32:39 PM 672 Views
Exactly. - 05/11/2009 07:56:00 PM 859 Views
I just don't understand the logic here - 05/11/2009 07:25:20 PM 716 Views
It's quite simple logic. - 05/11/2009 08:05:15 PM 710 Views
Then how did she do it? - 05/11/2009 09:41:53 PM 627 Views
Re: Then how did she do it? - 05/11/2009 10:58:01 PM 583 Views
Re: Then how did she do it? - 05/11/2009 11:58:24 PM 722 Views
Re: Then how did she do it? - 06/11/2009 02:22:51 PM 644 Views
It is a possibility. - 06/11/2009 03:43:22 AM 621 Views
Hmm, I have some problems with this - 06/11/2009 04:23:23 AM 711 Views
Some points no one addressed, a.k.a. Graendal lured Rand in... - 06/11/2009 05:16:12 AM 675 Views
Still no answers. I think I'm correct in feeling she is alive. *NM* - 06/11/2009 09:25:47 PM 254 Views
Re: Hmm, I have some problems with this - 06/11/2009 02:34:54 PM 684 Views
But... - 06/11/2009 02:56:32 PM 622 Views
Re: But... - 06/11/2009 03:07:02 PM 651 Views
Re: But... - 06/11/2009 03:53:41 PM 794 Views
Re: But... - 06/11/2009 07:35:12 PM 603 Views
She's definitely the deadiest - 05/11/2009 02:05:23 PM 716 Views
I think she escaped, but it says something that he had to become worse than a Forsaken to do it - 05/11/2009 06:10:08 PM 619 Views
Eventually they will be reborn... - 05/11/2009 06:30:45 PM 564 Views
Thanks for reminding me. Oh well, then I'm stuck with the whole tearing apart the Pattern thing - 05/11/2009 06:44:35 PM 592 Views
Moiraine says. - 05/11/2009 07:02:10 PM 604 Views
In this case, Moiraine's comment doesn't really matter. - 05/11/2009 07:14:44 PM 620 Views
Re: In this case, Moiraine's comment doesn't really matter. - 05/11/2009 07:35:18 PM 694 Views
From what I keep hearing - 05/11/2009 08:58:57 PM 648 Views
I could well believe it - 05/11/2009 11:03:40 PM 542 Views
Re: In this case, Moiraine's comment doesn't really matter. - 06/11/2009 09:00:01 PM 524 Views
I conceed to Rand's point - 05/11/2009 06:31:38 PM 706 Views
I don't think it's acceptable to tear apart the Pattern to save it. - 05/11/2009 06:40:22 PM 553 Views
True... - 05/11/2009 06:57:24 PM 586 Views
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Re: True... - 05/11/2009 07:35:06 PM 629 Views
Re: True... - 05/11/2009 08:07:42 PM 594 Views
I always thought she was the most dangerous of the chicks. - 06/11/2009 04:28:43 AM 679 Views
Difference between being dangerous and hard to kill--but, she is dangerous - 08/11/2009 02:19:34 AM 649 Views
Semirhage did far more destruction than Graendal. - 24/11/2009 06:09:18 PM 647 Views
Graendal also made chaos in Shara, though... - 24/11/2009 06:36:15 PM 513 Views
It's not surprising when you start looking at her parallels - 12/12/2009 01:03:25 AM 499 Views
Not to take away from Graendal, but my vote goes to Semirhage or Aginor - 16/12/2009 07:03:52 PM 525 Views
meh - 19/12/2009 11:56:12 PM 533 Views

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