Re: Ever notice the "sa" in sa'angreal?
TheUltimateReality Send a noteboard - 12/11/2009 07:48:37 PM
I concur that they might operate differently based on the difference in names.
The names come out of the AoL, from those who made the things in the first place. There is a clear distinction between ter'angreal and the others in function and operation. The name separation between sa'angreal and angreal implies some fundamental difference between the two classes beyond mere sizing.
Don't forget that Jordan had a trained and educated military background and in the military differentiation between guns, rifles, howitzers and cannons are based on function, not size. A sixteen inch weapon can be a rifle (if the barrel is rifled for spin), a cannon if not, a mortar depending on barrel length and so forth. The same applies to naval ship classes, function is the primary differentiation.
Separation of the classes based merely on size seems too simplistic, although I will accept correction if proof is found. I don't claim to know what the difference is, merely that one is likely to exist.
Also, challenging the idea that Asmo and Rand drew the same amount from the CK because they were tired. How astronomical would the chances have to be for both to end up at an identical starting strength that was multiplied by the CK. It makes more sense for the CK to give access, in equal amounts, to a fixed amount of the Power. Occam's razor and all that...
The names come out of the AoL, from those who made the things in the first place. There is a clear distinction between ter'angreal and the others in function and operation. The name separation between sa'angreal and angreal implies some fundamental difference between the two classes beyond mere sizing.
Don't forget that Jordan had a trained and educated military background and in the military differentiation between guns, rifles, howitzers and cannons are based on function, not size. A sixteen inch weapon can be a rifle (if the barrel is rifled for spin), a cannon if not, a mortar depending on barrel length and so forth. The same applies to naval ship classes, function is the primary differentiation.
Separation of the classes based merely on size seems too simplistic, although I will accept correction if proof is found. I don't claim to know what the difference is, merely that one is likely to exist.
Also, challenging the idea that Asmo and Rand drew the same amount from the CK because they were tired. How astronomical would the chances have to be for both to end up at an identical starting strength that was multiplied by the CK. It makes more sense for the CK to give access, in equal amounts, to a fixed amount of the Power. Occam's razor and all that...
Sanderson's understanding of angreal is totally wrong...
12/11/2009 11:10:57 AM
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You should include quotes
12/11/2009 11:42:20 AM
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The angreal magnifies the power of the individual holding it, not that of the entire circle.
12/11/2009 11:57:20 AM
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Re: The angreal magnifies the power of the individual holding it, not that of the entire circle.
12/11/2009 12:37:46 PM
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Re: The angreal magnifies the power of the individual holding it, not that of the entire circle.
12/11/2009 02:27:41 PM
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Please elaborate...
12/11/2009 02:42:17 PM
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On the basis that we dont agree on the use of sa'angreals on a group.
12/11/2009 03:02:29 PM
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OK, I'll humour you. This once.
12/11/2009 05:18:57 PM
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Rand Balefires a whole castle
12/11/2009 01:10:05 PM
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Ever notice the "sa" in sa'angreal?
12/11/2009 03:09:30 PM
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It stands for Super Amazing. *NM*
12/11/2009 04:10:02 PM
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I was under the assumption it was super awesome but oh well. *NM*
13/11/2009 06:08:36 AM
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There's never been any indication that sa'angreal work through a different mechanism to angreal...
12/11/2009 04:51:13 PM
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It has always been a viable theory, and Sanderson seems convincing...EDIT: RJ's take
12/11/2009 08:21:17 PM
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Wrong place *ignore*
12/11/2009 08:45:32 PM
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Do you still stick by the exponential theory?
12/11/2009 08:52:31 PM
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sa'angreal and angreal are only different in terms of the magnitude of their effects *NM*
12/11/2009 06:56:43 PM
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Re: Ever notice the "sa" in sa'angreal?
12/11/2009 07:48:37 PM
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You are missing two important points
12/11/2009 05:09:35 PM
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Response to both points...
12/11/2009 05:57:11 PM
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In fact, I've just read the actual report, and Sanderson didn't say anything near what you quoted.
12/11/2009 06:06:39 PM
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Re: Look at how similar descriptions of angreal and Sa'angreal affects are in the books.
12/11/2009 07:34:16 PM
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Probably
12/11/2009 09:05:31 PM
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Some ways the fixed amount theory could work...
13/11/2009 12:33:04 AM
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There is an argument for a minimum strength argument in the Great Hunt
13/11/2009 03:26:11 AM
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