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Re: That is nonsense... Cannoli Send a noteboard - 14/11/2009 05:30:01 AM
The Borderlanders offer to meet in Far Madding was insulting, yes. But since they have made no overt moves to attack him in the rear, why does he have to destroy them? And exactly what is the role of the common soldiers in the pissing contest between Rand and those rulers?
They are SOLDIERS. WTF?!? They knew what they were getting into and every one of them followed their leaders out of the country and away from their duty. In any event, killing soldiers when you are engaged in hostilities with a country is perfectly acceptable. You put on the uniform or pick up a weapon, you are a legitimate target. As for destroy them, what else do you do with a hostile army? You care about common soldiers so much, what about the common soldiers in Rand's army who will otherwise have to die to fight them if they choose to attack while Rand is off doing the Borderlanders' job for them? Sure, Rand can leave a force to guard them and make sure they cause no trouble, but those are soldiers who will not be with him in the Blight, and will cause his losses to be higher and chance of defeat to be greater.

If Rand does suspect them of evil intent, he should kill them, and then allow their soldiers to go defend their homeland.
HOW? They are hiding like cowards within the Guardian, where he cannot Travel.

And why destroy them? Why not weave a massive burst of light, or a thunderstorm, or anything else that doesn't cause damage, but still sends a clear message that he can kill them if he wants? Then he can demand they come outside, and speak with him.
How many chances do they get? Desertion is a capital offense. Moving the army out of your homeland is an act of war. They are thousands of miles from their duty, engaged in a patently hostile act. Not even the Geneva Conventions would condemn Rand's actions.

Or why not enter with Nynaeve? She has a well, so she will have the unique ability to channel inside. He could have easily used that to scare the rulers into following him, if he felt incapable of reasoning them into it.
Scaring is BS if you are not prepared to back it up. And why should Rand take that risk? There are limits to what Nynaeve can do with the well, otherwise there would have been no need for what happened the last time they were in Far Madding. A well is not a permanent license to channel, it is a finite amount of the Power, that WILL run out.

Killing innocent soldiers
No such animal.
who aren't even dreaming of threatening him because he feels pissed at their bosses for suggesting that they meet where he cannot force them into anything is nothing but an atrocity. Thank god Nynaeve stopped him.
Only because those soldiers might come in handy. They are soldiers under arms who followed their rulers thousands of miles from their homes and duty. Do you REALLY think they won't obey an order to attack Rand, or seize him and hold him if their rulers command it? If they were IN the Borderlands and Rand had a beef with the rulers, killing the soldiers would be justified! That is why they are SOLDIERS! They have the weapons, the armor and the uniforms and are legitimate targets. As it is, they have had months to turn back or leave if they thought their rulers were wrong. That they have come this far after so long only further absolves Rand.

Invading Army = Legitimate Target. Fact of life.
Cannoli
"Sometimes unhinged, sometimes unfair, always entertaining"
- The Crownless

“Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions.” GK Chesteron
Deus Vult!
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Rand is NOT evil in tGS, nor does he do any evil - 14/11/2009 12:26:27 AM 1347 Views
That is nonsense... - 14/11/2009 12:47:22 AM 737 Views
Re: That is nonsense... - 14/11/2009 05:30:01 AM 621 Views
So what? - 14/11/2009 09:28:49 AM 684 Views
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Laughable - 15/11/2009 03:36:36 PM 570 Views
Chasing you with an army is not hostile? - 19/11/2009 12:59:52 AM 486 Views
Sorry... gotta disagree. - 14/11/2009 01:09:30 AM 659 Views
Re: Sorry... gotta disagree. - 14/11/2009 03:49:49 AM 610 Views
Even if it's not thousands of lives. Stalin got it right. - 14/11/2009 05:33:05 AM 481 Views
I think the thousands would disagree - as would the one. *NM* - 25/11/2009 08:19:47 AM 230 Views
Mad, threatening, bad-tempered and cold, but not evil... - 14/11/2009 01:43:12 AM 589 Views
I disagree with prety much everything - 14/11/2009 03:10:12 AM 588 Views
Re: I disagree with prety much everything - 14/11/2009 05:45:14 AM 656 Views
Why in the world is quantity irrelevant? - 14/11/2009 06:01:13 AM 444 Views
A murderer is evil. What difference does it make how many? That's just degrees. There's no OK number - 14/11/2009 07:22:47 AM 524 Views
Ok, let's take this a step further - 14/11/2009 09:45:50 PM 477 Views
Re: Ok, let's take this a step further - 15/11/2009 12:23:05 AM 579 Views
Tried AGAIN? Serial killing indicates a tendancy. - 25/11/2009 08:23:39 AM 478 Views
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Re: I disagree with prety much everything - 15/11/2009 07:04:16 AM 520 Views
What Rand did that was evil. - 14/11/2009 04:06:17 AM 572 Views
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Take up the Dragon's burden... - 14/11/2009 07:56:46 AM 679 Views
A wonderful commentary on 'nation building' too, I suppose - 14/11/2009 08:22:46 AM 671 Views
Priorities. - 14/11/2009 07:52:06 AM 644 Views
Perhaps - 14/11/2009 09:43:51 PM 670 Views
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I don't think he was evil - 14/11/2009 08:10:56 AM 611 Views

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