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I'm convinced Moiraine's going to enjoy a Gandalf effect with her strength... Shannow Send a noteboard - 23/11/2009 05:49:07 PM
Matt: ...ok, so at the end of that answer he said this…we were asking a specific question about stilling and burning out…he said, “And neither burning out or stilling affects that except in this lifetime, your current lifetime”. In other words…

Brandon: ...that is consistent...

Matt: …it doesn’t affect your souls ability, your soul’s connection. So stilling and burning out do not affect the ability to channel, which seems to be integral to the soul as it pertains to a new life. That being said, Aran'gar and Osan'gar, they were transmigrated and we see that they can channel in their new bodies, which makes sense because the ability comes with the soul…

Brandon: ...and because of that if you were male before and reborn (in a female body)…you are channeling the wrong power…

Matt: ...exactly…he was transmigrated into a different body, but still channeling the same power the soul inherits. So considering Jordan's statement about stilling and burning out not affecting the channeling ability of the new life of a soul, is the same for the new life of a soul transmigrated?

Brandon: I’m going to say that transmigrated…if you were burned out and transmigrated you would still be burned out, is my guess.

Matt: Is that a MAFO question? Or…

Brandon: ...that is my guess and you can MAFO it if you want to send it to me, but that is a “I’m pretty sure” answer.

Matt: You saw where we were going…

Brandon: ...yes, I see where you are going…



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Matt: So, we will understand then in the next book or so why there is a decrease in power but not a significant decrease?

Brandon: Yes.



First, now we know that Lanfear was not burned out or stilled during her fall into Finnland. According to Brandon, if she had been, she would still be burned our or stilled in her new body - but I should stress this more like 95% certain than 100%.

Second, we will get the full story during in ToM. I'm guessing that this will come in part from Moiraine when we finally meet her and in part from Cyndane's view.


I still believe that the reason for Cyndane's decrease in strength is due to some kind of switch that took place between her and Moiraine when they went through the doorway.

I think Moiraine will come back with Lanfear's strength - maybe even in Lanfear's body, although that's a bit of a stretch.

However, this would mean that Lanfear should have come back with Moiraine's strength. And I bet that's what Sanderson thought as well, when he made his first comments about Cyndane being "very weak".

Instead, it seems Lanfear came back with the larger proportion of her old strength. Why, though? That is what I cannot figure out at this point in time.

Maybe she and Moraine switched bodies when the went through the doorway. Then Lanfear - in Moraine's body - killed herself in order to be transmigrated, while Moiraine remained behind in Lanfear's body.

However, when she was transmigrated, her new strength was halfway between her soul's strength and the strength of Moiraine's body, resulting in her new strength as Cyndane.

To me, this would be explained in ToM if Moiraine comes back with Lanfear's old strength.

I don't have it all figured out, but I believe something along the lines of the above might have taken place in Finnland.

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Some interesting new RAFOs and information from BS - 23/11/2009 12:13:37 PM 2715 Views
Thanks! I hadn't made the connection between Rand's paranoya and the dagger wound. *NM* - 23/11/2009 12:50:42 PM 788 Views
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Re: me too - 23/11/2009 06:43:40 PM 932 Views
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Nice answers on Cyndane - 23/11/2009 04:06:20 PM 1265 Views
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Less capable body...interesting. - 23/11/2009 05:11:16 PM 1106 Views
This idea originated... - 23/11/2009 05:43:21 PM 986 Views
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the details of the DO and Creator have never interested me much - 23/11/2009 04:06:20 PM 986 Views
Agreed... - 23/11/2009 04:29:13 PM 1084 Views
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Lanfear/Cyndane angreal - 23/11/2009 05:17:35 PM 1426 Views
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that really wouldn't work - 23/11/2009 06:05:43 PM 858 Views
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I'm convinced Moiraine's going to enjoy a Gandalf effect with her strength... - 23/11/2009 05:49:07 PM 1286 Views
I'm also entertaining that idea - 23/11/2009 06:23:30 PM 975 Views
Hmm, but how? - 23/11/2009 06:26:00 PM 957 Views
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Yeah, "maybe"... - 23/11/2009 06:49:45 PM 822 Views
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I agree to some extent - 23/11/2009 10:23:03 PM 794 Views
Says who? - 24/11/2009 07:02:30 AM 765 Views
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That makes one wonder... - 23/11/2009 11:57:55 PM 882 Views
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Ah well. - 24/11/2009 09:39:20 AM 791 Views
Indeed... - 23/11/2009 06:06:23 PM 876 Views
It's a huge puzzle - 23/11/2009 06:30:03 PM 861 Views
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Can the Finn still channelers, though? - 23/11/2009 07:13:06 PM 756 Views
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The Likelihood, if she had been stilled - 23/11/2009 06:12:55 PM 1045 Views
But... - 23/11/2009 06:22:43 PM 756 Views
Re: But... - 23/11/2009 06:33:41 PM 1066 Views
Ok, the difference between stilling and burning out could be his loophole - 23/11/2009 06:42:39 PM 884 Views
Re: Ok, the difference between stilling and burning out could be his loophole - 23/11/2009 06:50:05 PM 911 Views
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and make the others get up their reports - 23/11/2009 06:23:40 PM 746 Views
Not necessarily... - 23/11/2009 06:48:51 PM 787 Views
read the discussons above - lots of speculation abou that - 23/11/2009 06:51:57 PM 738 Views
What if Lanfear's mind was transmigrated, but not her soul? - 23/11/2009 08:30:40 PM 882 Views
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The Finns Killed Asmodean? - 23/11/2009 08:39:08 PM 1614 Views
But... - 23/11/2009 08:52:55 PM 824 Views
And some other counter-arguments - 23/11/2009 09:12:18 PM 912 Views
Re: And some other counter-arguments - 24/11/2009 03:22:36 AM 858 Views
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