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Re: I agree with you! fionwe1987 Send a noteboard - 26/11/2009 07:22:30 PM

But we don't even have an accurate channeling sample to go on. We need a sample of thousands of channelers from the population, which we don't have. The fact that there are three strong women like Elayne who became friends tells me that their strength is unheard of in the Tower, but probably not as extremely rare as they make out. If they tested hundreds of women, they're probably find one or two more of their calibre.

But look at the thousands of Novices the Rebels picked up. One woman is stronger than Egwene, and one woman comes close. That's it.
Look at the Aiel too. Someryn, Tamela, Viendre... only three women stronger than Aviendha, and he way Avi's strength is spoken of, it is indeed exceedingly rare to find it among the Aiel.
And this is a culture where channelers mate and give birth to loads of kids, where even non-sparkers are reportedly found and trained. There are around 6000 WO. That's a big enough sample.

I think they are a level below the Forsaken, and that level is pronounced. There's no real evidence that they can compete, even remotely, on that level, and a lot against it. Moiraine thinks that Aviendha and Egwene linked could maybe fight a Forsaken, and Egwene thinks that linked with Romanda and Lelaine she wouldn't match one of the Forsaken. It's a telling sign.

a) Egwene and Avi were not at full strength when Moiraine thought they could tackle a Forsaken.
b) Egwene was talking about herself, Romanda and Lelaine being unable to stop the guy who came to rescue Moggy as well as Moggy herself.
Obviously, these three linked can stop a Forsaken. Verin, Kumira and Shalon did it, though one of them lost their life. Egwene is much more skilled than Verin, and Romanda and Lelaine are much stronger than Kumira (only stronger than Daigian) and Shalon (stronger than Verin, but that's it).
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Is Nynaeve of "very rare" strength? - 21/11/2009 02:53:22 PM 1596 Views
BS said... - 21/11/2009 02:57:58 PM 943 Views
Actually, you are adding a word that isn't there. - 21/11/2009 03:47:48 PM 1122 Views
IMO, it's self evident that the female list only contains named characters - 21/11/2009 03:58:33 PM 809 Views
IMO, the above post by "Logain" is trolling and not worth the debating!! *NM* - 21/11/2009 04:01:08 PM 307 Views
I have a valid reason for asking. - 21/11/2009 04:05:52 PM 902 Views
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Re: IMO, it's self evident that the female list only contains named characters - 21/11/2009 04:09:58 PM 665 Views
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I find it unlikely that a super strong channeler would end up being unimportant to the plot *NM* - 21/11/2009 11:54:43 PM 291 Views
This sounds semi-mystical... - 24/11/2009 04:45:52 PM 593 Views
Also, if they were that strong, they would then be important. - 29/11/2009 05:24:35 PM 587 Views
she's in the top 0.1% of channelers we know of - 21/11/2009 03:01:02 PM 697 Views
She's in the top 0.05% *NM* - 21/11/2009 11:41:42 PM 294 Views
so shes also in the top 0.1%? *NM* - 22/11/2009 12:04:00 AM 296 Views
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Yes *NM* - 21/11/2009 03:56:12 PM 288 Views
Yes, though obviously Etzel is right. - 21/11/2009 04:08:41 PM 854 Views
Re: Is Nynaeve of "very rare" strength? - 21/11/2009 06:00:29 PM 649 Views
So what's the point? Why the quotes? *NM* - 21/11/2009 10:24:37 PM 280 Views
Re: So what's the point? Why the quotes? - 24/11/2009 07:31:37 PM 596 Views
Actually... what Graenal says - 25/11/2009 09:39:05 PM 662 Views
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I really doubt Nynaeve strength channelers are one in thousand... - 22/11/2009 12:09:15 AM 689 Views
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