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Dead or not I thin BS has made it clear she'll be in ToM darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 01/12/2009 07:07:10 PM
If Graendal is dead, then her aquisition of the ring angreal has served no puspose in terms of the plot. She hasn't killed one enemy who 'thought they knew her strength', before being unpleasantly surprised.

The scuffle with Cyndane and Moghedien was meaningless from a plot perspective since they never intended to kill her in any case.

Come to think of it, could the unfillfilled use of her angreal be a sign that she is actually still alive? Was her thought about surprising someone with it foreshadowing by RJ, or just a meaningless soundbyte?


I can live with her being killed off rather anti-climatically in tGS, but there are obviously too many unanswered questions around her:

What was the point of her random gaining of an angreal?
Did she kill Asmo?
What was the point of her alliance with Aran'gar?
Why ahve Moridin offer her the #2 spot only to have her die without another word?
Domani Drag Queen in the White Tower ... Aran'gar watch out!
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The loss of angreal Sidious - 30/11/2009 08:22:38 PM 1425 Views
Moiraine's return may sort out 2, 5 and 6 *NM* Iceman - 30/11/2009 08:51:00 PM 470 Views
The Eelfinn probably took their angreal Etzel - 30/11/2009 09:00:16 PM 721 Views
sure who needs them anyway, the good guys are goin to win regardless *NM* Iceman - 30/11/2009 09:41:13 PM 309 Views
Basically! The only question is how? RugbyPlayingAshaman - 30/11/2009 10:00:15 PM 877 Views
Lanfear's angreal is not with the Finns Sidious - 01/12/2009 04:29:17 AM 847 Views
I'm not sure rAndy aL - 01/12/2009 07:11:26 AM 596 Views
she didn't drop it. Mo was clawing it away as they tumbled through. Onarishma - 01/12/2009 08:59:46 AM 658 Views
Verin went to the Tower storerooms looking for the Oath Rod. Fanatic-Templar - 30/11/2009 10:03:27 PM 758 Views
I don't think her angreal belonged to the Tower Sidious - 01/12/2009 04:30:46 AM 686 Views
I really miss the reference desk Fanatic-Templar - 01/12/2009 06:01:55 AM 745 Views
It's mentioned twice in Deceptive Appearances Light in the Night - 01/12/2009 06:23:27 AM 746 Views
I meant it's not mentioned where/how she got it . Fanatic-Templar - 01/12/2009 06:53:17 AM 611 Views
Aahhh.... Light in the Night - 01/12/2009 08:16:15 AM 723 Views
Seems improbable that she would have had it for 50 years if it belongs to the White Tower ursidae - 01/12/2009 07:22:54 PM 693 Views
She also had Corianin Nedeal's ring ter'angreal, the records of which had all been erased. Fanatic-Templar - 01/12/2009 11:15:56 PM 688 Views
Isn't it in the Tower Law that all angreal belong to the Tower? Lohikaarme - 06/08/2010 04:47:07 PM 586 Views
On that note, what was the point of Graendal's angreal? Shannow - 30/11/2009 10:07:41 PM 752 Views
Just another false lead rAndy aL - 30/11/2009 11:59:42 PM 619 Views
Maybe not... she used it to repel Verin's shield Maresu - 14/12/2009 01:14:05 PM 716 Views
It was probably just fun information Sidious - 01/12/2009 04:32:00 AM 607 Views
Bel'al & the famous Tear collection Lohikaarme - 06/08/2010 05:01:03 PM 718 Views
Probably she just got it... Etzel - 01/12/2009 12:22:57 PM 680 Views
Dead or not I thin BS has made it clear she'll be in ToM darius_sedai - 01/12/2009 07:07:10 PM 635 Views
Moridin offered her #2 because... Nameless Ashaman - 01/12/2009 11:52:34 PM 851 Views
Sorry, I meant what was the plot point of bringing it up only to have her die off b4 it matters! darius_sedai - 02/12/2009 07:17:04 PM 819 Views
The same as Shai'tan promising every Forsaken to be Nae'blis. Fanatic-Templar - 02/12/2009 07:59:39 PM 569 Views
Par for the course Nameless Ashaman - 03/12/2009 01:22:38 AM 905 Views
I wonder why Verin... fionwe1987 - 30/11/2009 10:23:01 PM 759 Views
I think Fanatic Templar is right. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 30/11/2009 11:24:31 PM 799 Views
She might have mentioned it somewhere in... Great Lord of Chaos - 01/12/2009 02:27:32 AM 660 Views
Re: She might have mentioned it somewhere in... BlackAdder - 02/12/2009 12:47:51 AM 738 Views
Moraine had an Angreal? The only one I recall her having she returned in book 2. *NM* krassos - 30/11/2009 11:25:07 PM 394 Views
Did she return it? I can't recall. *NM* Sidious - 01/12/2009 04:32:50 AM 313 Views
It's been a few years since I read the earlier volumes. *NM* krassos - 02/12/2009 02:03:36 AM 315 Views
She never returned it Ryan - 01/12/2009 06:00:33 AM 610 Views
did the male choedan kal get destroyed or did rand just destroy the access key ter'angreal? *NM* moondog - 01/12/2009 01:24:38 AM 504 Views
from what i've read in tGS, it looks like Rand turned the OP back into the sa'angreal; destroying it Bookwyrm - 01/12/2009 03:07:26 AM 767 Views
So both are now destroyed rAndy aL - 01/12/2009 07:06:56 AM 691 Views
Yup, check out Logain's meeting with the Sea Folk for the story Stolpe - 01/12/2009 09:21:38 AM 850 Views
not in Winter's Heart. Did you mean CoT? Logain makes an appearance there. *NM* Bookwyrm - 01/12/2009 05:45:54 PM 335 Views
At the end of Winter's Heart - the female CK melts. krassos - 02/12/2009 02:06:09 AM 674 Views
It happened off screen then. I dug out my books and found the details in KoD, chapter 22. grrrr *NM* Bookwyrm - 02/12/2009 06:43:59 AM 302 Views
Destroyed With the Power, Which I Wouldn't Have Thought Possible. The Name With No Man - 01/12/2009 11:47:26 AM 777 Views
Meaning What, Exactly? The Name With No Man - 01/12/2009 11:35:43 AM 782 Views
Well thank god Elayne will learn to make them darius_sedai - 01/12/2009 07:02:48 PM 665 Views
Ha, maybe that's why they're rare. Darth_Katie - 01/12/2009 07:38:46 PM 773 Views
Re: Female CK Lord Haart - 14/12/2009 01:13:55 PM 766 Views
The female Choedan Kal was destroyed as well Etzel - 14/12/2009 02:37:53 PM 782 Views
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