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Ooo, that's an interesting thought. Darth_Katie Send a noteboard - 01/12/2009 07:45:44 PM
... which is something Verin's revelations may indeed hint at.

IMO, the DO is actually pure Chaos, while the Pattern is pure Order. Both have their faults - the DO is destructive and uncaring, but so is the Pattern in many ways (Fate is cruel - it takes a happy farmboy and condemns him to a terrible death and to inflict huge pain, suffering and death upon others).

Perhaps the DO does break free, and 'fuses' with the Pattern to begin a Fourth Age where men are free from destiny and can instead determine their lives.


I like it. I assumed what Verin was talking about was the fact that the DO will not honor his promises to his followers if he gains control, but instead break the Wheel of Time and end the Pattern, something only Ishmael of all his followers truly understands. But there could be something more it, that would be cool! I wish I had the book with me here so I could look up the exact quote ... alas.
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Shadow win? Nargs - 01/12/2009 04:20:36 PM 830 Views
The Shadow kind of has a big trump card Sandwich - 01/12/2009 04:30:38 PM 584 Views
If the Dark One wins, and destroys the Pattern, becomes the Creator and the Creator becomes the DO RugbyPlayingAshaman - 01/12/2009 06:36:47 PM 392 Views
I used to hope for that, but the DO quotes and his choice of followers make it hard to like him. *NM* Lord Haart - 01/12/2009 07:21:01 PM 180 Views
Fact is, people don't enjoy reading about doom and gloom. Lord Haart - 01/12/2009 04:33:35 PM 641 Views
Yes they do. They're called the Malazaniacs ... They love emo to the max ... Bookwyrm - 02/12/2009 06:57:42 AM 393 Views
The DO is the real threat Etzel - 01/12/2009 04:46:32 PM 466 Views
Those are bubbles of evil Ryan - 01/12/2009 05:56:26 PM 372 Views
Those "impossible deaths", etc., are bubbles of evil... Etzel - 01/12/2009 06:35:35 PM 493 Views
This is why fanfiction of soap operas and comics can be more entertaining than the real thing. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 01/12/2009 06:09:17 PM 469 Views
Only if the DO isn't quite what we think he/it is. Lord Haart - 01/12/2009 07:19:44 PM 496 Views
Ooo, that's an interesting thought. Darth_Katie - 01/12/2009 07:45:44 PM 407 Views
Brilliant idea artois - 01/12/2009 08:01:39 PM 399 Views
Doesn't that sound a bit too much like Mistborn? Tom - 01/12/2009 10:09:32 PM 417 Views
Not so surprising... artois - 01/12/2009 10:18:39 PM 400 Views
No, there is no sense that the Shadow can or will win. Tom - 01/12/2009 09:23:47 PM 401 Views
It's why I prefer non-fiction more often. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 01/12/2009 10:26:35 PM 347 Views
And RPA Reiterates Part of My Response. The Name With No Man - 02/12/2009 12:10:40 AM 481 Views
Beowulf did end badly, though Tom - 02/12/2009 05:40:52 AM 588 Views
He Died Heroically, Saving His People. The Name With No Man - 03/12/2009 06:39:02 PM 474 Views
Re: He Died Heroically, Saving His People. Lord Haart - 03/12/2009 07:11:59 PM 417 Views
With the Deck So Heavily Stacked in the DO's Favor, the Rest Just Makes Things Competitive. The Name With No Man - 02/12/2009 12:24:18 AM 497 Views
More Shocking artois - 02/12/2009 04:10:58 AM 490 Views
I Won't Say You're Wrong, but I'll Give You 10:1 Against. The Name With No Man - 04/12/2009 07:12:56 PM 460 Views
I always had the sense that the DO's minions are really just meant to be distractions darius_sedai - 02/12/2009 06:30:27 AM 397 Views
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