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but she'd been there before kcf Send a noteboard - 01/12/2009 11:51:41 PM
Distance attenuates the Bond, and I have to imagine that being in a different dimension with a different set of rules of time and space caused whatever connections she had to Randworld to be broken.


In Tear she went to Finnland and the bond survived just fine. We've also seen when Rand travled people via the portal stone in TGS (including Verin) that the warder bonds survived just fine.

The only difference is that the doorway melted in this instance. I believe it takes way too many assumptions to ascert that the doorway melting could break the bond (or that even being in another dimension could).

For certain we know of two ways that Warder bonds go away - death and stilling/burning out. We know she's alive, so that leaves stilling/burning out.


It is remotely possible that Moiraine released the Warder bond herself as she fell into the doorway. But that seems like it'd be way too much concentration for someone who wrestling with a fosaken who is much, much strong and has an angreal.
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Moiraine and Lanfear kcf - 01/12/2009 10:24:54 PM 2143 Views
Healing, huh? Tansu Targli - 01/12/2009 10:58:00 PM 1387 Views
Re: Healing, huh? Nate - 01/12/2009 11:12:53 PM 1467 Views
yep kcf - 01/12/2009 11:19:23 PM 1305 Views
Re: yep darius_sedai - 02/12/2009 01:15:47 AM 1653 Views
Re: yep kcf - 02/12/2009 04:44:32 PM 1481 Views
Re: yep darius_sedai - 02/12/2009 05:37:41 PM 1229 Views
I'm betting she decides to stay a non-channeler and put her past behind her. *NM* RandAllThor - 01/12/2009 11:09:32 PM 791 Views
I don't think Moiraine was stilled. Gher - 01/12/2009 11:19:03 PM 1303 Views
what about Lan's bond kcf - 01/12/2009 11:23:35 PM 1290 Views
I think that the doorway melting did that. Gher - 02/12/2009 12:49:02 AM 1373 Views
Not manually Knightscape - 02/12/2009 07:13:09 AM 1188 Views
Not sure, but it seemed like she planned for it. At one point BlackAdder - 02/12/2009 01:23:36 AM 1220 Views
Rand wasn't stilled when beetnemesis - 02/12/2009 06:48:42 AM 1221 Views
The doorway melting and snapping the bond is simple enough for me *NM* Deadsy - 01/12/2009 11:24:07 PM 629 Views
as I said above, far too many assumptions in that idea *NM* kcf - 01/12/2009 11:27:12 PM 675 Views
Re: Moiraine and Lanfear Fred Gaidin - 01/12/2009 11:27:49 PM 1247 Views
Not just an assumption. Tansu Targli - 01/12/2009 11:38:56 PM 1332 Views
Re: Not just an assumption. Fred Gaidin - 02/12/2009 02:45:26 PM 1254 Views
it can kcf - 01/12/2009 11:40:40 PM 1307 Views
Re: it can Fred Gaidin - 02/12/2009 02:51:21 PM 1414 Views
I think that since Moiraine was in another dimension, the Bond passed to the closest holder. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 01/12/2009 11:43:15 PM 1284 Views
but she'd been there before kcf - 01/12/2009 11:51:41 PM 1350 Views
I don't understand why you think there are too many assumptions darius_sedai - 02/12/2009 12:57:50 AM 1333 Views
Exactly. Thanks for translating in fewer words than I would have used *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/12/2009 04:21:06 PM 739 Views
that assumes quite a bit about the structure of the bond kcf - 02/12/2009 07:45:37 PM 1389 Views
no more than the assumptions of the actions take on the other side of the door! darius_sedai - 03/12/2009 07:51:59 AM 1382 Views
My only complaint... Rand al'Thor - 02/12/2009 12:34:34 AM 1252 Views
Best. Slashfic. EVER! The Name With No Man - 02/12/2009 12:38:06 AM 1402 Views
BS not committing to the Cyndane = Lanfear scenario has me wondering as well Light in the Night - 02/12/2009 02:51:30 AM 1499 Views
The only possibility is "something weird" if Cyndane ISN'T just "Lanfear" Tom - 02/12/2009 05:26:23 AM 1256 Views
Re: The only possibility is "something weird" if Cyndane ISN'T just "Lanfear" AliasRY - 02/12/2009 05:46:30 AM 1312 Views
That would be absolutely hilarious!!! *NM* Tom - 02/12/2009 05:49:01 AM 654 Views
That'd blow some minds. *NM* Gher - 02/12/2009 05:56:06 AM 677 Views
Maybe they put some of Ilyena in Cyndane. Joel - 04/12/2009 06:52:01 PM 1298 Views
LOL ... Lanfear doesn't need Ilyena to be an LTT stalker! darius_sedai - 04/12/2009 07:09:02 PM 1260 Views
Right, But Ilyena Doesn't Need Lanfear for That Either. The Name With No Man - 04/12/2009 07:17:29 PM 1279 Views
I'm 99.99% sure RJ said that the DO had to grab a soul quickly after death or it was lost darius_sedai - 04/12/2009 09:13:18 PM 1123 Views
Never Said It Had to Be the DO. The Name With No Man - 04/12/2009 09:43:58 PM 1115 Views
it would indeed be a totall shocker! darius_sedai - 04/12/2009 09:50:16 PM 1403 Views
Weird is a given, I think Light in the Night - 02/12/2009 07:12:45 AM 1394 Views
It may be as simple as... fionwe1987 - 02/12/2009 09:42:50 AM 1205 Views
I didn't see any sexual connotation attached to it.... Light in the Night - 02/12/2009 10:38:07 AM 1188 Views
Not sexual, no... fionwe1987 - 02/12/2009 06:12:15 PM 1192 Views
Cairheinin to the Core. Joel - 04/12/2009 07:03:23 PM 1249 Views
Haven't you people ever seen a contortionist? darius_sedai - 04/12/2009 07:12:20 PM 1139 Views
I Don't Believe I Have, Now That You Mention It. The Name With No Man - 04/12/2009 07:18:32 PM 1188 Views
See Above. The Name With No Man - 04/12/2009 06:54:47 PM 1357 Views
I doubt it kcf - 02/12/2009 08:55:23 PM 1237 Views
Maybe it's a wild goose chase. Joel - 04/12/2009 06:44:55 PM 1399 Views
There are several holes with this scenario... fionwe1987 - 02/12/2009 02:18:28 AM 1402 Views
On Transmitigation vs rebirth: Gher - 02/12/2009 02:35:23 AM 1684 Views
Agreed, the angreal theory seems most likely IMO (about Lanfear/Cyndane) *NM* Lord Haart - 02/12/2009 05:39:55 AM 616 Views
Re: There are several holes with this scenario... Sidious - 02/12/2009 09:05:34 AM 1429 Views
On Cyndane's strength... fionwe1987 - 02/12/2009 09:40:27 AM 1102 Views
Re: On Cyndane's strength... Sidious - 02/12/2009 11:24:38 AM 1159 Views
Re: On Cyndane's strength... fionwe1987 - 02/12/2009 06:16:57 PM 1190 Views
Re: On Cyndane's strength... Sidious - 03/12/2009 04:39:45 AM 1394 Views
But that doesn't explain why Leane and Siuan are now essentially equal darius_sedai - 02/12/2009 06:21:47 PM 1216 Views
oops I double posted this! *NM* darius_sedai - 02/12/2009 06:23:02 PM 622 Views
I don't think they're equal Sidious - 03/12/2009 04:43:13 AM 1202 Views
There is no deference, which would be expected in their "game" of hating each other darius_sedai - 03/12/2009 07:38:57 AM 1401 Views
Re: There are several holes with this scenario... kcf - 02/12/2009 09:08:00 PM 1516 Views
I don't think they were stilled or burned out. Tom - 02/12/2009 04:37:09 AM 1147 Views
I have no opinion on the theory (yet), but Wotmaniac Reborn - 02/12/2009 04:42:36 AM 1168 Views
Disagree. There's no way they don't. Gher - 02/12/2009 05:26:00 AM 1197 Views
Moridin mentions it kcf - 02/12/2009 04:33:01 PM 1134 Views
Re: Moridin mentions it darius_sedai - 02/12/2009 06:13:20 PM 1191 Views
Moiraine will make a huge difference to TG (Min's viewing) so I think she will need to channel. *NM* Lord Haart - 02/12/2009 05:38:03 AM 645 Views
Min doesn't channel, and she makes a big difference. As does Thom. *NM* Great Lord of Chaos - 02/12/2009 09:57:10 AM 635 Views
agreed - Moiraine doesn't need to channel to make a difference *NM* kcf - 02/12/2009 04:38:50 PM 746 Views
Yub, I generally agree Etzel - 02/12/2009 11:56:03 AM 1123 Views
I'm always nervous when we agree kcf - 02/12/2009 04:24:51 PM 1204 Views
I think it's cool! Etzel - 02/12/2009 06:01:32 PM 1139 Views
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