BS not committing to the Cyndane = Lanfear scenario has me wondering as well
Light in the Night Send a noteboard - 02/12/2009 02:51:30 AM
Everyone has assumed that they are one-and-the-same, because of this:
Then the woman struck back at her, and she suffered her second shock. She was stronger than Cyndane had been before the Aelfinn and the Eelfinn held her! That was impossible; no woman could be stronger. She must have an angreal, too.
Add in the fact that Cyndane apparently has all of the knowledge and feelings toward Rand/LTT that Lanfear would have, and it seems it's a cinch they are the same person.
Every glossary entry about the Forsaken varies, updating their current status. The last, most complete one, is from CoT. Here's an excerpt:
...Those thought to have survived are Demandred, Semirhage, Graendal, Mesaana, Moghedien, and two who were reincarnated in new bodies and given new names, Osan'gar and Aran'gar, although it seems possible that Osan'gar may also be dead. The life of a Forsaken is always uncertain. Recently, a man calling himself Moridin has appeared, and seems to be yet another of the dead Forsaken brought back from the grave by the Dark One. The same may be possible regarding the woman calling herself Cyndane, but since Aran'gar was a man brought back as a woman, speculation as to the original identities of Moridin and Cyndane may prove futile until more is learned.
We may be assuming too far about Cyndane, especially given that BS sidesteps the issue. Perhaps there is more to it than a simple transmigration and Healing. After all, we have seen the Finns transfer knowledge from others into Mat's head, so perhaps Cyndane is a similar instance, except all of Lanfear's memories have been transferred to another body. (And I'm not saying the Finns did it, either.)
Then the woman struck back at her, and she suffered her second shock. She was stronger than Cyndane had been before the Aelfinn and the Eelfinn held her! That was impossible; no woman could be stronger. She must have an angreal, too.
Add in the fact that Cyndane apparently has all of the knowledge and feelings toward Rand/LTT that Lanfear would have, and it seems it's a cinch they are the same person.
Every glossary entry about the Forsaken varies, updating their current status. The last, most complete one, is from CoT. Here's an excerpt:
...Those thought to have survived are Demandred, Semirhage, Graendal, Mesaana, Moghedien, and two who were reincarnated in new bodies and given new names, Osan'gar and Aran'gar, although it seems possible that Osan'gar may also be dead. The life of a Forsaken is always uncertain. Recently, a man calling himself Moridin has appeared, and seems to be yet another of the dead Forsaken brought back from the grave by the Dark One. The same may be possible regarding the woman calling herself Cyndane, but since Aran'gar was a man brought back as a woman, speculation as to the original identities of Moridin and Cyndane may prove futile until more is learned.
We may be assuming too far about Cyndane, especially given that BS sidesteps the issue. Perhaps there is more to it than a simple transmigration and Healing. After all, we have seen the Finns transfer knowledge from others into Mat's head, so perhaps Cyndane is a similar instance, except all of Lanfear's memories have been transferred to another body. (And I'm not saying the Finns did it, either.)
Where once was Shadow
Now reigns Light
Darkness fades
Into the Night
I made the switch!
Now reigns Light
Darkness fades
Into the Night
I made the switch!
Moiraine and Lanfear
- 01/12/2009 10:24:54 PM
1992 Views
Healing, huh?
- 01/12/2009 10:58:00 PM
1280 Views
I'm betting she decides to stay a non-channeler and put her past behind her. *NM*
- 01/12/2009 11:09:32 PM
718 Views
I don't think Moiraine was stilled.
- 01/12/2009 11:19:03 PM
1197 Views
what about Lan's bond
- 01/12/2009 11:23:35 PM
1167 Views
The doorway melting and snapping the bond is simple enough for me *NM*
- 01/12/2009 11:24:07 PM
572 Views
Re: Moiraine and Lanfear
- 01/12/2009 11:27:49 PM
1133 Views
I think that since Moiraine was in another dimension, the Bond passed to the closest holder.
- 01/12/2009 11:43:15 PM
1171 Views
but she'd been there before
- 01/12/2009 11:51:41 PM
1233 Views
I don't understand why you think there are too many assumptions
- 02/12/2009 12:57:50 AM
1207 Views
Exactly. Thanks for translating in fewer words than I would have used
*NM*
- 02/12/2009 04:21:06 PM
675 Views
*NM*
- 02/12/2009 04:21:06 PM
675 Views
that assumes quite a bit about the structure of the bond
- 02/12/2009 07:45:37 PM
1245 Views
no more than the assumptions of the actions take on the other side of the door!
- 03/12/2009 07:51:59 AM
1256 Views
Best. Slashfic. EVER!
- 02/12/2009 12:38:06 AM
1280 Views
- 02/12/2009 12:38:06 AM
1280 Views
BS not committing to the Cyndane = Lanfear scenario has me wondering as well
- 02/12/2009 02:51:30 AM
1380 Views
The only possibility is "something weird" if Cyndane ISN'T just "Lanfear"
- 02/12/2009 05:26:23 AM
1146 Views
Re: The only possibility is "something weird" if Cyndane ISN'T just "Lanfear"
- 02/12/2009 05:46:30 AM
1209 Views
Maybe they put some of Ilyena in Cyndane.
- 04/12/2009 06:52:01 PM
1205 Views
- 04/12/2009 06:52:01 PM
1205 Views
LOL ... Lanfear doesn't need Ilyena to be an LTT stalker!
- 04/12/2009 07:09:02 PM
1157 Views
Right, But Ilyena Doesn't Need Lanfear for That Either.
- 04/12/2009 07:17:29 PM
1156 Views
I'm 99.99% sure RJ said that the DO had to grab a soul quickly after death or it was lost
- 04/12/2009 09:13:18 PM
1012 Views
Weird is a given, I think
- 02/12/2009 07:12:45 AM
1284 Views
It may be as simple as...
- 02/12/2009 09:42:50 AM
1093 Views
I didn't see any sexual connotation attached to it....
- 02/12/2009 10:38:07 AM
1078 Views
Not sexual, no...
- 02/12/2009 06:12:15 PM
1089 Views
Cairheinin to the Core.
- 04/12/2009 07:03:23 PM
1149 Views
There are several holes with this scenario...
- 02/12/2009 02:18:28 AM
1277 Views
Agreed, the angreal theory seems most likely IMO (about Lanfear/Cyndane) *NM*
- 02/12/2009 05:39:55 AM
554 Views
Re: There are several holes with this scenario...
- 02/12/2009 09:05:34 AM
1321 Views
On Cyndane's strength...
- 02/12/2009 09:40:27 AM
1000 Views
Re: On Cyndane's strength...
- 02/12/2009 11:24:38 AM
1049 Views
But that doesn't explain why Leane and Siuan are now essentially equal
- 02/12/2009 06:21:47 PM
1112 Views
I don't think they're equal
- 03/12/2009 04:43:13 AM
1082 Views
There is no deference, which would be expected in their "game" of hating each other
- 03/12/2009 07:38:57 AM
1300 Views
I have no opinion on the theory (yet), but
- 02/12/2009 04:42:36 AM
1063 Views
Moiraine will make a huge difference to TG (Min's viewing) so I think she will need to channel. *NM*
- 02/12/2009 05:38:03 AM
589 Views
Min doesn't channel, and she makes a big difference. As does Thom. *NM*
- 02/12/2009 09:57:10 AM
579 Views
agreed - Moiraine doesn't need to channel to make a difference *NM*
- 02/12/2009 04:38:50 PM
683 Views
Yub, I generally agree
- 02/12/2009 11:56:03 AM
1020 Views
