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I think that the doorway melting did that. Gher Send a noteboard - 02/12/2009 12:49:02 AM
If you don't think Moiraine was stilled/burned out, then why did Lan's bond break?

I don't buy the idea about the doorway melting. That simply doesn't make sense to me. It also makes a whole bunch of assumptions that we really don't know about. While we do know that the Warder bond is severed by stilling/burning out and death. We know Moiraine lives, so the simplest remaining explanation is that she was stilled/burned out.


The string analogy is the best one. An invisible string between Moiraine and Lan, that was severed when the connection between the two worlds was broken. I think the best proof for or against this theory would be to examine what happens when a Bonded person (Aes Sedai or Warder or their respective equivalents) goes to TAR. Does the bond still point them to the real life place their partner is at? To the TAR reflection? Or does the position locator aspect of the bond not work? If I remember correctly, it's said that they can't point to where their partner is. Obviously the pathway from real life to TAR is always open, TAR is after a reflection of the "real" world. So the Bond wouldn't break, but it does affect the mechanics of it.

There's also the possibility that Moiraine "manually" severed the bond or passed it on.
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Moiraine and Lanfear kcf - 01/12/2009 10:24:54 PM 1992 Views
Healing, huh? Tansu Targli - 01/12/2009 10:58:00 PM 1279 Views
Re: Healing, huh? Nate - 01/12/2009 11:12:53 PM 1369 Views
yep kcf - 01/12/2009 11:19:23 PM 1194 Views
Re: yep darius_sedai - 02/12/2009 01:15:47 AM 1510 Views
Re: yep kcf - 02/12/2009 04:44:32 PM 1352 Views
Re: yep darius_sedai - 02/12/2009 05:37:41 PM 1085 Views
I'm betting she decides to stay a non-channeler and put her past behind her. *NM* RandAllThor - 01/12/2009 11:09:32 PM 717 Views
I don't think Moiraine was stilled. Gher - 01/12/2009 11:19:03 PM 1196 Views
what about Lan's bond kcf - 01/12/2009 11:23:35 PM 1167 Views
I think that the doorway melting did that. Gher - 02/12/2009 12:49:02 AM 1241 Views
Not manually Knightscape - 02/12/2009 07:13:09 AM 1078 Views
Not sure, but it seemed like she planned for it. At one point BlackAdder - 02/12/2009 01:23:36 AM 1098 Views
Rand wasn't stilled when beetnemesis - 02/12/2009 06:48:42 AM 1117 Views
The doorway melting and snapping the bond is simple enough for me *NM* Deadsy - 01/12/2009 11:24:07 PM 570 Views
as I said above, far too many assumptions in that idea *NM* kcf - 01/12/2009 11:27:12 PM 604 Views
Re: Moiraine and Lanfear Fred Gaidin - 01/12/2009 11:27:49 PM 1132 Views
Not just an assumption. Tansu Targli - 01/12/2009 11:38:56 PM 1225 Views
Re: Not just an assumption. Fred Gaidin - 02/12/2009 02:45:26 PM 1149 Views
it can kcf - 01/12/2009 11:40:40 PM 1197 Views
Re: it can Fred Gaidin - 02/12/2009 02:51:21 PM 1311 Views
I think that since Moiraine was in another dimension, the Bond passed to the closest holder. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 01/12/2009 11:43:15 PM 1170 Views
but she'd been there before kcf - 01/12/2009 11:51:41 PM 1233 Views
I don't understand why you think there are too many assumptions darius_sedai - 02/12/2009 12:57:50 AM 1205 Views
Exactly. Thanks for translating in fewer words than I would have used *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/12/2009 04:21:06 PM 675 Views
that assumes quite a bit about the structure of the bond kcf - 02/12/2009 07:45:37 PM 1244 Views
no more than the assumptions of the actions take on the other side of the door! darius_sedai - 03/12/2009 07:51:59 AM 1255 Views
My only complaint... Rand al'Thor - 02/12/2009 12:34:34 AM 1135 Views
Best. Slashfic. EVER! The Name With No Man - 02/12/2009 12:38:06 AM 1279 Views
BS not committing to the Cyndane = Lanfear scenario has me wondering as well Light in the Night - 02/12/2009 02:51:30 AM 1378 Views
The only possibility is "something weird" if Cyndane ISN'T just "Lanfear" Tom - 02/12/2009 05:26:23 AM 1146 Views
Re: The only possibility is "something weird" if Cyndane ISN'T just "Lanfear" AliasRY - 02/12/2009 05:46:30 AM 1209 Views
That would be absolutely hilarious!!! *NM* Tom - 02/12/2009 05:49:01 AM 596 Views
That'd blow some minds. *NM* Gher - 02/12/2009 05:56:06 AM 614 Views
Maybe they put some of Ilyena in Cyndane. Joel - 04/12/2009 06:52:01 PM 1204 Views
LOL ... Lanfear doesn't need Ilyena to be an LTT stalker! darius_sedai - 04/12/2009 07:09:02 PM 1156 Views
Right, But Ilyena Doesn't Need Lanfear for That Either. The Name With No Man - 04/12/2009 07:17:29 PM 1154 Views
I'm 99.99% sure RJ said that the DO had to grab a soul quickly after death or it was lost darius_sedai - 04/12/2009 09:13:18 PM 1011 Views
Never Said It Had to Be the DO. The Name With No Man - 04/12/2009 09:43:58 PM 998 Views
it would indeed be a totall shocker! darius_sedai - 04/12/2009 09:50:16 PM 1291 Views
Weird is a given, I think Light in the Night - 02/12/2009 07:12:45 AM 1284 Views
It may be as simple as... fionwe1987 - 02/12/2009 09:42:50 AM 1093 Views
I didn't see any sexual connotation attached to it.... Light in the Night - 02/12/2009 10:38:07 AM 1078 Views
Not sexual, no... fionwe1987 - 02/12/2009 06:12:15 PM 1089 Views
Cairheinin to the Core. Joel - 04/12/2009 07:03:23 PM 1149 Views
Haven't you people ever seen a contortionist? darius_sedai - 04/12/2009 07:12:20 PM 1013 Views
I Don't Believe I Have, Now That You Mention It. The Name With No Man - 04/12/2009 07:18:32 PM 1085 Views
See Above. The Name With No Man - 04/12/2009 06:54:47 PM 1257 Views
I doubt it kcf - 02/12/2009 08:55:23 PM 1126 Views
Maybe it's a wild goose chase. Joel - 04/12/2009 06:44:55 PM 1266 Views
There are several holes with this scenario... fionwe1987 - 02/12/2009 02:18:28 AM 1276 Views
On Transmitigation vs rebirth: Gher - 02/12/2009 02:35:23 AM 1575 Views
Agreed, the angreal theory seems most likely IMO (about Lanfear/Cyndane) *NM* Lord Haart - 02/12/2009 05:39:55 AM 554 Views
Re: There are several holes with this scenario... Sidious - 02/12/2009 09:05:34 AM 1321 Views
On Cyndane's strength... fionwe1987 - 02/12/2009 09:40:27 AM 999 Views
Re: On Cyndane's strength... Sidious - 02/12/2009 11:24:38 AM 1048 Views
Re: On Cyndane's strength... fionwe1987 - 02/12/2009 06:16:57 PM 1082 Views
Re: On Cyndane's strength... Sidious - 03/12/2009 04:39:45 AM 1250 Views
But that doesn't explain why Leane and Siuan are now essentially equal darius_sedai - 02/12/2009 06:21:47 PM 1110 Views
oops I double posted this! *NM* darius_sedai - 02/12/2009 06:23:02 PM 555 Views
I don't think they're equal Sidious - 03/12/2009 04:43:13 AM 1081 Views
There is no deference, which would be expected in their "game" of hating each other darius_sedai - 03/12/2009 07:38:57 AM 1299 Views
Re: There are several holes with this scenario... kcf - 02/12/2009 09:08:00 PM 1399 Views
I don't think they were stilled or burned out. Tom - 02/12/2009 04:37:09 AM 1012 Views
I have no opinion on the theory (yet), but Wotmaniac Reborn - 02/12/2009 04:42:36 AM 1062 Views
Disagree. There's no way they don't. Gher - 02/12/2009 05:26:00 AM 1094 Views
Moridin mentions it kcf - 02/12/2009 04:33:01 PM 1025 Views
Re: Moridin mentions it darius_sedai - 02/12/2009 06:13:20 PM 1072 Views
Moiraine will make a huge difference to TG (Min's viewing) so I think she will need to channel. *NM* Lord Haart - 02/12/2009 05:38:03 AM 588 Views
Min doesn't channel, and she makes a big difference. As does Thom. *NM* Great Lord of Chaos - 02/12/2009 09:57:10 AM 578 Views
agreed - Moiraine doesn't need to channel to make a difference *NM* kcf - 02/12/2009 04:38:50 PM 681 Views
Yub, I generally agree Etzel - 02/12/2009 11:56:03 AM 1020 Views
I'm always nervous when we agree kcf - 02/12/2009 04:24:51 PM 1085 Views
I think it's cool! Etzel - 02/12/2009 06:01:32 PM 1036 Views
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