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I see no reason to believe Kari was a Darkfriend. Ishamael is a liar, and that's that. Fanatic-Templar Send a noteboard - 04/12/2009 01:19:00 AM

It's not surprising that the WT would have more darkfriends compared to the general population, but 20% still seems a little high. I imagine the Black Tower will have similar problems.


The odd thing is that on at least one occasion RJ had said the ratio was 10%, and here we are at 20%.
Perhaps with TG approaching and a resident forsakern, the shadow got better with recruiting, and it is far easier to do in such an isolated concentrated organization.

From the PoV's we see of several BA's (e.g. Sheriam, Elza), it seems that they were not all inherently evil. Elza seemed terrified when Semirhage tortured Rand - I don't think she had truly understood the evil nature of the "Chosen"... Many must have joined to gain stature and power, without fully understanding what they were signing up for. Once you are in, there is no way back but the path taken by Verin and Ingtar, and most people would never take it.

We actually saw some who chose the shadow not even for personal gain but out of the mistaken belief they could thus protect their loved ones, or perhaps out of desperation. That is certainly the case for Ingtar and, if I understood EoTW correctly - Kari Al'Thor. Some might have been forced by circumstances, like Verin. Some may even have been turned.

So just like there are very nasty non-darkfriends around (Elaida, Valda), there are darkfriends who were not inherently evil, at least not when they joined. Presumably they get more and more corrupt the longer they remain. This was what Ingtar saw in the Portal Stones in tGH.
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The Black Ajah - 03/12/2009 10:05:13 PM 1109 Views
The BA must be better at recruiting than normal Aes Sedai - 04/12/2009 12:47:11 AM 697 Views
Re: The BA must be better at recruiting than normal Aes Sedai - 04/12/2009 01:14:44 AM 618 Views
I see no reason to believe Kari was a Darkfriend. Ishamael is a liar, and that's that. - 04/12/2009 01:19:00 AM 509 Views
Perhaps - 04/12/2009 03:10:23 AM 532 Views
The same could be said for the great majority of characters in the series. *NM* - 04/12/2009 04:19:50 AM 228 Views
Also, think of the way Aes Sedai recruit. - 04/12/2009 01:17:37 AM 490 Views
In the Age of Legends, 50% of channelers turned to the Shadow, if memory serves. *NM* - 04/12/2009 01:11:35 AM 249 Views
It makes you wonder if they knew the Dark One was "evil" - 04/12/2009 01:25:24 AM 598 Views
Kind of a hard oath to implement - 04/12/2009 03:14:05 AM 472 Views
The Blacks purge the other Ajahs.... - 04/12/2009 01:15:48 AM 536 Views
I think it's absolute nonsense - 04/12/2009 04:34:04 AM 677 Views
Knowing who he is? - 04/12/2009 05:25:26 AM 569 Views
Re: Knowing who he is? - 04/12/2009 12:04:58 PM 501 Views
So by your argument, very few people murder, steal or cheat? - 04/12/2009 12:50:35 PM 559 Views
Re: So by your argument, very few people murder, steal or cheat? - 04/12/2009 03:28:27 PM 511 Views
Re: So by your argument, very few people murder, steal or cheat? - 07/12/2009 11:17:27 AM 532 Views
Ah, I understood it from the wrong angle, sorry. - 04/12/2009 06:58:10 PM 510 Views
You are correct of course - 04/12/2009 06:03:54 AM 517 Views
Re: You are correct of course - 04/12/2009 08:28:29 AM 515 Views
I disagree, slightly. - 04/12/2009 03:33:49 PM 545 Views
Okay but I'm talking more of the War of Power - 04/12/2009 03:40:35 PM 492 Views
Ok - 04/12/2009 03:50:10 PM 554 Views
People would pick the side they thought would win - 05/12/2009 02:40:15 AM 555 Views
Another factor: turning a blind eye - 11/12/2009 04:01:01 PM 482 Views

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