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It amounts to the same thing darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 12/12/2009 04:12:42 PM
He just acted to save Rand. That this was contrary to Sammael's plan was simply an inevitable side-effect, not an intended betrayal to get rid of Sammael.

As said, Moridin tells that he doesn't want to kill Sammael. Apparently the DO also didn't want to lose Sammael. Finally, Moridin couldn't even know if Sammael is actually still around, if Rand would stay in SL, or if Rand would manage to kill Sammael.


Moridin interfered with a duel, saving Rands life, what did he think was going to happen? Not actively seeking/participating in Sammaels death doesn't = he didn't betray Sammael to his death.

I don't see Moridin or the DO crying over losing Sammael... he was a loose cannon far too often. Moridin shouldn't have had to save Rand at all if Sammael was really playing by the DOs rules ... it's possible the DO just wanted to bring him back to punish him
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Two idiot Forsaken in the Prologue Sidious - 10/12/2009 04:31:10 PM 1815 Views
Oh you are being unfair! darius_sedai - 10/12/2009 04:49:31 PM 923 Views
LOL. Are you implying Mesaana killed Asmodean? *NM* Logain - 10/12/2009 07:13:27 PM 373 Views
That would be a funny twist, but in reality I think we all know darius_sedai - 10/12/2009 08:10:16 PM 899 Views
Yes; this pretty much matched my expectations - esp. for Demandred. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 10/12/2009 04:56:32 PM 946 Views
Mesaana was motivated out of... Logain - 10/12/2009 07:16:43 PM 858 Views
Ah, then she would be more of an idiot than I thought. 2nd Rate indeed. *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 10/12/2009 08:19:05 PM 360 Views
Re: Yes; this pretty much matched my expectations - esp. for Demandred. Sidious - 11/12/2009 06:47:43 AM 938 Views
But BS said that Shaidar Haran couldn't do things in the physical world without aid. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 11/12/2009 03:20:59 PM 827 Views
I think that just proves SH isn't gay! *NM* fionwe1987 - 11/12/2009 04:07:47 PM 356 Views
Or it could just prove darius_sedai - 11/12/2009 05:42:33 PM 754 Views
Re: Or it could just prove RugbyPlayingAshaman - 11/12/2009 07:00:57 PM 721 Views
I agree, but I think it's about the DO being totally random darius_sedai - 11/12/2009 07:07:17 PM 807 Views
Did he say he could not touch things, or that he just could not counter uber-channeling? Datakim - 12/12/2009 12:30:40 AM 763 Views
I don't ever want to find out who Demandred is Deadsy - 11/12/2009 02:47:58 PM 733 Views
Imagine how bad it would be if BlackAdder - 11/12/2009 11:22:56 PM 761 Views
I would say... Etzel - 10/12/2009 04:58:15 PM 849 Views
he hasn't really done anything lankyevilme - 10/12/2009 05:25:03 PM 835 Views
But the point is valid darius_sedai - 10/12/2009 05:32:12 PM 951 Views
I'm pretty sure he did something... Etzel - 10/12/2009 05:33:04 PM 838 Views
Re: I'm pretty sure he did something... darius_sedai - 10/12/2009 07:51:25 PM 719 Views
Yeah, but now Graendal is dead, while Demandred is still alive. *NM* Etzel - 10/12/2009 08:29:24 PM 744 Views
Re: Yeah, but now Graendal is dead, while Demandred is still alive. *NM* darius_sedai - 11/12/2009 12:17:54 AM 720 Views
I tend to agree Sidious - 11/12/2009 06:52:51 AM 959 Views
I think Demandred is pretty smart... Etzel - 11/12/2009 11:45:58 AM 766 Views
of course he's never set foot anywhere close to anything long enough darius_sedai - 11/12/2009 02:11:19 PM 764 Views
Is it smart to take a risk... Etzel - 11/12/2009 02:22:18 PM 717 Views
I think your making a lot of assumptions darius_sedai - 11/12/2009 05:40:47 PM 740 Views
Well... Etzel - 11/12/2009 06:04:47 PM 778 Views
Re: Well... darius_sedai - 11/12/2009 07:15:06 PM 902 Views
I agree that Demandred will fail in the end. Etzel - 12/12/2009 11:00:59 AM 737 Views
Either a Channeler or Mat darius_sedai - 12/12/2009 03:41:09 PM 649 Views
According to RJ... Sidious - 12/12/2009 12:32:12 PM 816 Views
makes you wonder darius_sedai - 12/12/2009 03:39:08 PM 752 Views
Re: makes you wonder Etzel - 12/12/2009 03:47:18 PM 748 Views
Thanks for the BS quote, that's new news to me! darius_sedai - 12/12/2009 03:55:37 PM 718 Views
Moridin didn't want to betrayal Sammael... Etzel - 12/12/2009 04:07:49 PM 683 Views
It amounts to the same thing darius_sedai - 12/12/2009 04:12:42 PM 745 Views
Then you could also say... Etzel - 12/12/2009 04:22:30 PM 671 Views
no actually you cannot darius_sedai - 12/12/2009 04:46:03 PM 691 Views
Ah, I give up... Etzel - 12/12/2009 04:50:07 PM 703 Views
thanks for your permission darius_sedai - 12/12/2009 04:53:01 PM 701 Views
To be fair, Mesaana's brood of channelers promise could still come to fruition. *NM* RandAllThor - 10/12/2009 04:58:28 PM 384 Views
Yup, especially if she is a higher-up AS in the tower. Lord Haart - 10/12/2009 05:57:12 PM 799 Views
Sanderson's first attempt at portraying the Forsaken based on character summaries in RJ's notes... Shannow - 10/12/2009 05:29:51 PM 930 Views
Well... Sidious - 11/12/2009 06:55:17 AM 779 Views
That was RJ's biggest flaw, IMO Deadsy - 11/12/2009 02:45:41 PM 817 Views
I'll respond to someone who wants to say that beetnemesis - 11/12/2009 05:19:52 PM 845 Views
Ya. Fain's a good exception. I still have hopes for him. And... Thereva was scary, but... Deadsy - 11/12/2009 08:32:38 PM 727 Views
Slayer/Luc/Isam is also pretty cool. Lord Haart - 12/12/2009 04:16:14 PM 739 Views
One theme of tGS was "The Forsaken are actually pretty lame" beetnemesis - 11/12/2009 05:12:55 PM 783 Views
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