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Re: Who said she wasn't wrong? Fanatic-Templar Send a noteboard - 13/12/2009 04:16:56 AM
As you pointed out, Egwene herself thinks she wasn't wrong.


Is that a typo or are you subconsciously unwilling to admit Egwene's erring?

And while I agree that the Egwene we knew till KoD would certainly have seen some similarity between herself and Elaida over the Oaths and been appalled, I put it down to an error on Brandon's part that he did not discuss this.


Hmm. Well, we can hope. I'm more surprised at the absence of any mention of the Logain lie. Especially when we think of how violently Pevara reacted to seeing one of the ferrets, I'd have expected Elaida at least to rant about it. So maybe you are right. I think RJ was aware of this facet of Egwene's personality, as he used it elsewhere too, as I'll explain below.

I still don't think its anywhere close to hypocrisy on her part though. Especially since, in CoT, she thinks that she cannot abuse her power over these women, both because they would balk and maybe backstab her as well as because it would be an abuse of her power. She was never in danger of going down Elaida's road.


That's not the problem. Of course she won't. But hypocrisy is the pretense of having moral or virtuous character that one does not in fact possess. Every time she rants about the immorality of someone else using the Oaths to Compel Aes Sedai, she is implying her own moral superiority to them, and using that to her advantage, when she is in fact equally guilty of such actions.

A similar incident from Egwene is when, in an attempt to prevent Nynaeve from revealing her lies to the Wise Ones, she punishes Nynaeve for lying.

She thinks it is compulsion because she cannot think of any other way in which 30 Aes Sedai, from two violently opposed factions, would swear fealty to a man who can channel. And she was


Of course. But that still means she cannot distinguish the effects of the two.
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