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Graendal's streith gown gives a lot away... Shannow Send a noteboard - 14/12/2009 08:53:49 PM
ACoS, ch.40:
"It could not tell one flow from another", but it could distinguish saidin from saidar by the smell. Saidin smelled like the sharp edge of a knife, the point of a thorn. Saidar smelled soft, but like something that would grow harder the harder it was pressed. No other Myrddraal could smell that difference. Shaidar Haran was like no other Myrddraal."

However, I think it's clear that it was a Forsaken, since you need the Forsaken mark to force Shadowspawn. Demandred and Cyndane want to kill Rand personally, while Moridin doesn't want that Rand is harmed. That rules them out. Aran'gar is ruled out by her own thoughts. I seriously doubt that Moghedien would risk it, since she is mindtrapped and Moridin certainly grilled her. Similarly another Mesaana betrayal seems very unlikely, since she was just punished by SH for disobedience; besides she is concentrated on the WT.

That leaves Semirhage and Graendal as possible culprits. IMO, it is more likely that Graendal posed as her old buddy Sammael to kill/weaken Rand and play mind-games with the other Forsaken.


The only times her gown darkens or turns grey, is when she wants to hide something. And when Moridin mentions that Sammael appeared and commanded some Myrdraal, Arangar notices that Graendal's gown goes grey instantly.
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Part of a mystery from KoD is solved - 14/12/2009 08:37:45 PM 1753 Views
Only SH can distinguish saidin and saidar - 14/12/2009 08:46:31 PM 1127 Views
Graendal's streith gown gives a lot away... - 14/12/2009 08:53:49 PM 1781 Views
Yes... - 14/12/2009 09:00:26 PM 935 Views
Why would she be worried about that if she ordered it, though? - 15/12/2009 02:01:10 AM 892 Views
I think she excludes herself in TGS - 15/12/2009 04:39:18 AM 1026 Views
Very interesting argument... - 14/12/2009 08:49:08 PM 1028 Views
Alviarin's Mark doesn't give her control over shadowspawn. RJ told us this in a Q&A. - 14/12/2009 08:49:50 PM 882 Views
Link please to the RJ quote. *NM* - 15/12/2009 03:31:06 PM 343 Views
Here is the quote: - 15/12/2009 03:35:34 PM 816 Views
Thanks! So we can eliminate Alviarrin for sure! *NM* - 15/12/2009 03:50:05 PM 336 Views
I always thought it was Demandred - 14/12/2009 08:59:01 PM 1337 Views
I saw Demandred's comment to mean the following: - 14/12/2009 09:07:26 PM 966 Views
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I agree - 15/12/2009 04:44:14 AM 922 Views
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Graendal is low on my list - 15/12/2009 01:47:20 PM 856 Views
Posing as Sammael is Graendal's modus operandi - 15/12/2009 01:58:34 PM 842 Views
Re: Posing as Sammael is Graendal's modus operandi - 15/12/2009 02:21:07 PM 1058 Views
I think it makes perfect sense - 15/12/2009 03:20:28 PM 791 Views
Two things... - 15/12/2009 02:03:23 PM 855 Views
Re: Two things... - 15/12/2009 02:24:42 PM 919 Views
Let's look at purpose and method... - 15/12/2009 02:34:36 PM 914 Views
I don't think it makes much sense that this was a test - 15/12/2009 07:20:52 AM 886 Views

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