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I agree Sidious Send a noteboard - 15/12/2009 04:44:14 AM

She's the only Forsaken at the time that is trying to suss out Rand's abilities... and this attack seemed way too amateurish to the work of Demandred and far too upfront to be the work of Graendal

I wrote a whole theory on this topic, and it makes is a challenge prove now that Semirhage is dead.

Moridin says that Sammael is alive, and Demandred immediately says that's nonsense because Sammael liked to be the center of attention. When Semirhage probes about the attack, Moridin says that it was Sammael who sent the Trollocs. At this point, Demandred realized that he'd made a huge error because he already knew about Semirhage's plan to attack Rand - he didn't know that she'd used a disguise in the form of Sammael. He therefore said he'd been wrong, to try and correct the situation, and it caused a stir.

Of course the other possibility is that Fain gained Sammael's influence over the Shadow when mashadar absorbed him. BS commented that the DO would not resurrect Sammael because something nasty had happened to his soul, so this might be the reason.

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Part of a mystery from KoD is solved Logain - 14/12/2009 08:37:45 PM 1400 Views

Only SH can distinguish saidin and saidar Etzel - 14/12/2009 08:46:31 PM 756 Views

I think this Mydraal in question was Shaidar Haran 1.5, was it not? I don't remember. *NM* Marshall - 14/12/2009 08:50:24 PM 276 Views

SH obviously wasn't one of the Myrddraal, who were ordered by "Sammael" to attack Rand. *NM* Etzel - 14/12/2009 08:53:43 PM 234 Views

Graendal's streith gown gives a lot away... Shannow - 14/12/2009 08:53:49 PM 1406 Views

Yes... Etzel - 14/12/2009 09:00:26 PM 610 Views

Why would she be worried about that if she ordered it, though? BlackAdder - 15/12/2009 02:01:10 AM 552 Views

I think she excludes herself in TGS Sidious - 15/12/2009 04:39:18 AM 703 Views

Very interesting argument... Shannow - 14/12/2009 08:49:08 PM 676 Views

Alviarin's Mark doesn't give her control over shadowspawn. RJ told us this in a Q&A. Marshall - 14/12/2009 08:49:50 PM 529 Views

Link please to the RJ quote. *NM* Logain - 15/12/2009 03:31:06 PM 214 Views

Here is the quote: Etzel - 15/12/2009 03:35:34 PM 494 Views

Thanks! So we can eliminate Alviarrin for sure! *NM* Logain - 15/12/2009 03:50:05 PM 204 Views

I always thought it was Demandred kcf - 14/12/2009 08:59:01 PM 906 Views

I saw Demandred's comment to mean the following: Shannow - 14/12/2009 09:07:26 PM 621 Views

I also interpreted... Etzel - 14/12/2009 09:17:19 PM 505 Views

I've always thought it was Semirhage's doing darius_sedai - 14/12/2009 09:39:18 PM 509 Views

I agree Sidious - 15/12/2009 04:44:14 AM 599 Views

In my view... Etzel - 15/12/2009 07:32:18 AM 471 Views

Graendal is low on my list Sidious - 15/12/2009 01:47:20 PM 506 Views

Posing as Sammael is Graendal's modus operandi Etzel - 15/12/2009 01:58:34 PM 531 Views

Re: Posing as Sammael is Graendal's modus operandi Sidious - 15/12/2009 02:21:07 PM 730 Views

But if she want's to appear as Sammael, she would surely "act in character"... Shannow - 15/12/2009 02:42:27 PM 519 Views

Re: But if she want's to appear as Sammael, she would surely "act in character"... Sidious - 15/12/2009 03:01:40 PM 470 Views

I think it makes perfect sense Etzel - 15/12/2009 03:20:28 PM 445 Views

Two things... Shannow - 15/12/2009 02:03:23 PM 503 Views

Re: Two things... Sidious - 15/12/2009 02:24:42 PM 558 Views

Let's look at purpose and method... Shannow - 15/12/2009 02:34:36 PM 539 Views

I don't think it makes much sense that this was a test Etzel - 15/12/2009 07:20:52 AM 519 Views

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<quote id="61119">She's the only Forsaken at the time that is trying to suss out Rand's abilities... and this attack seemed way too amateurish to the work of Demandred and far too upfront to be the work of Graendal</quote>

I wrote a whole theory on this topic, and it makes is a challenge prove now that Semirhage is dead.

Moridin says that Sammael is alive, and Demandred immediately says that's nonsense because Sammael liked to be the center of attention. When Semirhage probes about the attack, Moridin says that it was Sammael who sent the Trollocs. At this point, Demandred realized that he'd made a huge error because he already knew about Semirhage's plan to attack Rand - he didn't know that she'd used a disguise in the form of Sammael. He therefore said he'd been wrong, to try and correct the situation, and it caused a stir.

Of course the other possibility is that Fain gained Sammael's influence over the Shadow when mashadar absorbed him. BS commented that the DO would not resurrect Sammael because something nasty had happened to his soul, so this might be the reason.
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