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Indeed, and that's why I propose that... Shannow Send a noteboard - 18/12/2009 10:31:23 PM
Bell curves are usually not centered on the mean or median. This is a statistical fact.

In order for a distribution to be a bell curve it is, by definition, centered on its mean.

From The Wikipedia article "Normal distribution"
In probability theory and statistics, the normal distribution or Gaussian distribution is a continuous probability distribution that describes data that cluster around the mean. The graph of the associated probability density function is bell-shaped, with a peak at the mean, and is known as the Gaussian function or bell curve.


I propose that the Bell Curve is cut by zero at around 2 standard deviations below the mean. In other words, while it is a perfect Bell Curve, you'd have to draw the bottom portion of it as an imaginary curve below zero strength.

If not that, then it must be a relative scale, where each movement away from the mean is a proportional one, rather than an absolute one.

Remember, RJ's 21 level scale isn't supposed to be superimposed on the Bell Curve. The Bell Curve is merely another, independent tool to represent the channeling population.
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The One Power Bell Curve: Proof that it is not centered on 50% of the strongest channeler's strength Shannow - 18/12/2009 08:37:55 AM 1913 Views
I always thought the curve was one sided Asha'man Warder - 18/12/2009 01:17:32 PM 1168 Views
The Curve only refers to the channeling population, not to non-channelers. Shannow - 18/12/2009 01:56:25 PM 1177 Views
I would say that your sample is flawed. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 18/12/2009 05:02:02 PM 1266 Views
well said *NM* darius_sedai - 18/12/2009 05:12:40 PM 611 Views
It doesn't matter... Shannow - 18/12/2009 10:02:38 PM 1100 Views
But, it sort of does. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 18/12/2009 10:43:08 PM 1178 Views
So you're saying that no modern Aes Sedai are even of average strength? Shannow - 18/12/2009 10:51:01 PM 1345 Views
Are you sure it's the same bell curve from the AoL? BlackAdder - 18/12/2009 11:11:19 PM 1240 Views
The Tower is restricted to the middle... fionwe1987 - 18/12/2009 05:35:03 PM 1308 Views
Two things... Shannow - 18/12/2009 09:28:25 PM 1197 Views
The culling theory... Phelix - 18/12/2009 09:36:34 PM 1115 Views
The culling theory applies to the ENTIRE population, not just Aes Sedai... Shannow - 18/12/2009 09:42:31 PM 1264 Views
Yes, but Aes Sedai take it to a new level... Phelix - 18/12/2009 09:48:59 PM 1344 Views
Re: Yes, but Aes Sedai take it to a new level... Shadowkiller - 18/12/2009 10:06:15 PM 1081 Views
Several more things... fionwe1987 - 18/12/2009 11:26:19 PM 1273 Views
You don't understand your own model... Shannow - 18/12/2009 11:38:05 PM 1304 Views
So RJ was wrong about Bell Curve distribution? darius_sedai - 19/12/2009 06:03:24 PM 1144 Views
Re: So RJ was wrong about Bell Curve distribution? Sidious - 19/12/2009 06:10:52 PM 1155 Views
Its simple really... fionwe1987 - 19/12/2009 06:15:23 PM 1197 Views
So, Aviendha trumps RJ? A woman who, as late as tGS, doesn't know what she's doing with the OP? fionwe1987 - 19/12/2009 06:12:42 PM 1139 Views
Age-Related Sample Bias Shadowkiller - 18/12/2009 06:41:03 PM 1118 Views
I have no problem with that...but it implies that the average woman today isn't at 50% of Lanfear... Shannow - 18/12/2009 09:46:00 PM 1231 Views
Partially agreed... Shadowkiller - 18/12/2009 10:13:46 PM 1135 Views
Well, the Aes Sedai are the only group that we have detailed strength info about... Shannow - 18/12/2009 10:26:48 PM 1293 Views
Sharina is AS ... she'd be dead in a few years if she hadn't gone to the Tower *NM* darius_sedai - 28/12/2009 01:08:20 AM 1068 Views
A thought that occured to me, and I'd like your opinion... Phelix - 18/12/2009 07:38:29 PM 1121 Views
Well Sharina isn't a sparker and she's the strongest AS darius_sedai - 18/12/2009 07:57:17 PM 1141 Views
Yes... Phelix - 18/12/2009 08:01:57 PM 1232 Views
Is it just my bad memory or is one of the wondergirls not a sparker? Gher - 18/12/2009 10:12:59 PM 1095 Views
I think it's just a bad memory... Phelix - 18/12/2009 10:19:25 PM 1104 Views
Easier sulution, and real example. amirebram - 18/12/2009 10:03:20 PM 1183 Views
And that is indeed the solution I feel most comfortable with... Shannow - 18/12/2009 10:08:40 PM 1120 Views
Re: And that is indeed the solution I feel most comfortable with... Sidious - 19/12/2009 11:39:31 AM 1361 Views
Agree, but a little more curvy is better amirebram - 19/12/2009 11:17:16 PM 1061 Views
*facepalm* BlackAdder - 18/12/2009 10:13:16 PM 1172 Views
That's just the normalized value graphed on a log scale. amirebram - 19/12/2009 11:20:41 PM 1107 Views
Dude, Seriously? Shadowkiller - 18/12/2009 10:19:25 PM 1127 Views
Indeed, and that's why I propose that... Shannow - 18/12/2009 10:31:23 PM 1177 Views
So RJ used two separate scales, one actual one relative, to explain the same thing? fionwe1987 - 18/12/2009 11:33:20 PM 1157 Views
Yes, "Bell Curve" does not mean Gausian. Or normal distribution. amirebram - 19/12/2009 11:24:10 PM 1148 Views
I'm sorry, but I've never heard of a non-Gaussian bell curve. Can you prove its existence? *NM* fionwe1987 - 20/12/2009 03:24:22 AM 600 Views
Maybe people in my field just use the term in a non-technical way. We do things with ... amirebram - 21/12/2009 07:24:43 PM 1073 Views
It does to RJ Shadowkiller - 20/12/2009 03:12:30 PM 1206 Views
Yes, "Bell Curve" does not mean Gausian. Or normal distribution. amirebram - 19/12/2009 11:24:11 PM 1094 Views
That's because outliers in IQ tests are excluded form the curve. *NM* fionwe1987 - 18/12/2009 11:31:23 PM 630 Views
Really?!?! then what is the definition of a IQ of 200? amirebram - 19/12/2009 11:28:18 PM 1407 Views
You can have IQ's above that... fionwe1987 - 20/12/2009 05:09:44 AM 1147 Views
I said that in the other post and was half torn to pieces *NM* Sidious - 19/12/2009 11:38:25 AM 573 Views
Eh. Ignore the IQ value and draw it on a linear weight scale amirebram - 19/12/2009 11:26:23 PM 1124 Views
Re: The One Power Bell Curve: Proof that it is not centered on 50% of the strongest channeler's stre Kieran - 19/12/2009 06:02:34 PM 1070 Views
I like this idea Shadowkiller - 20/12/2009 04:01:28 PM 1367 Views
Accidental Post *NM* Shadowkiller - 20/12/2009 07:11:09 PM 611 Views
Mathmatically this is very close to the system I proposed in another thread darius_sedai - 27/12/2009 01:23:51 AM 1046 Views
Re: The One Power Bell Curve: taura-tierno - 27/12/2009 10:05:33 PM 1259 Views
What makes you think Alviarin is "middling"? darius_sedai - 27/12/2009 10:28:13 PM 1439 Views
Re: What makes you think Alviarin is "middling"? taura-tierno - 28/12/2009 03:19:14 PM 1169 Views
Re: What makes you think Alviarin is "middling"? darius_sedai - 28/12/2009 03:30:44 PM 1354 Views
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