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Its simple really... fionwe1987 Send a noteboard - 19/12/2009 06:15:23 PM
Or is Aviendha's estimation is wrong. She's new to the Power when she makes the comment.

You keep coming back to this one quote as the proof of your idea that all women somehow fall below the mean-median-mode of the Bell Curve. It's a mathematical impossibility so RJ must be wrong in one of these two quotes. I choose to think it's more logical to assume Aviendha's estimate is wrong.

Can you post the quote or point me to it? I can't seem to find it.


I doubt it's meant to be a mistake on Aviendha's part, lol. Egwene also said that Rand was stronger than she and Aviendha combined. There are lots of these quotes. I'd hesitate to say that RJ is wrong, but he definitely portrayed his idea VERY poorly.


When Egwene made that statement, neither she nor Avi were near potential, and Rand seems to have jumped far enough to be of Asmo's strength at least. So, they may well have been weaker than him.

In contrast, we have Moiraine's statement that Egwene and Avi might be able to match Graendal. Given she has fought Aginor and has an estimate of his strength, this isn't some kind of ridiculous statement.
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Its simple really... fionwe1987 - 19/12/2009 06:15:23 PM 810 Views
So, Aviendha trumps RJ? A woman who, as late as tGS, doesn't know what she's doing with the OP? fionwe1987 - 19/12/2009 06:12:42 PM 809 Views
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Sharina is AS ... she'd be dead in a few years if she hadn't gone to the Tower *NM* darius_sedai - 28/12/2009 01:08:20 AM 871 Views
A thought that occured to me, and I'd like your opinion... Phelix - 18/12/2009 07:38:29 PM 775 Views
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Easier sulution, and real example. amirebram - 18/12/2009 10:03:20 PM 834 Views
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It does to RJ Shadowkiller - 20/12/2009 03:12:30 PM 867 Views
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You can have IQ's above that... fionwe1987 - 20/12/2009 05:09:44 AM 799 Views
I said that in the other post and was half torn to pieces *NM* Sidious - 19/12/2009 11:38:25 AM 391 Views
Eh. Ignore the IQ value and draw it on a linear weight scale amirebram - 19/12/2009 11:26:23 PM 762 Views
Re: The One Power Bell Curve: Proof that it is not centered on 50% of the strongest channeler's stre Kieran - 19/12/2009 06:02:34 PM 735 Views
I like this idea Shadowkiller - 20/12/2009 04:01:28 PM 938 Views
Accidental Post *NM* Shadowkiller - 20/12/2009 07:11:09 PM 438 Views
Mathmatically this is very close to the system I proposed in another thread darius_sedai - 27/12/2009 01:23:51 AM 739 Views
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What makes you think Alviarin is "middling"? darius_sedai - 27/12/2009 10:28:13 PM 1097 Views
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