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Re: Wrong place *ignore* taura-tierno Send a noteboard - 27/12/2009 06:14:51 PM

I also don't agree with this. The first evidence we have of this is Siuan saying that a strong Aes Sedai could crumple the walls of Tar Valon with Vora's sa'angreal. That means that a weak one would not, and therefore not all channelers gain the same amount of saidar from the sa'angreal, which strongly indicates that Vora's wand is a multiplier.


Siuan's statement does not mean that a weak Aes Sedai could not. It's an indication of that, but it might also mean a number of other things. She could mean that a weak Aes Sedai would not be able to use it at all (like the Choedan Kal, although I believe this is unlikely). Also, saying "a weak novice could use it to crumple the walls" might reduce the mysterious reputation of the Aes Sedai. Indicating that only an Aes Sedai could use such a powerful artefact makes them seem more powerful than they are, and as such, it seems like something they would teach novices, since some of those who do learn might leave the tower before attaining the shawl. Or there might be another reason for her wording altogether.

My point is that Siuan claims a strong sister could do something - she does not say that a weak could not. It's an indication of that, but that sort of "truth" is exactly what Aes Sedai are famous for.


Secondly, when Elza draws on Callandor through Narishma, it glows like a flame. When Rand uses it, it is so bright that you can't even see that it's a sword. It's another indication that Rand gains more from Callandor.


Does Elza draw on the full potential of Callandor? We don't know.

Also, it's quite possible that since Callandor is flawed, it doesn't work like other sa'angreal. I've always assumed that you could draw a specific amount of power from Callandor safely - and then draw an infinite amount more from it, but since it's not safe, you'd die before you could unleash something even close to the strength of the Choedan Kal. If Rand used too much Power with Callandor - but not enough to burn himself out - that might be why it shines brighter when he uses it.
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Sanderson's understanding of angreal is totally wrong... - 12/11/2009 11:10:57 AM 1870 Views
You should include quotes - 12/11/2009 11:42:20 AM 1046 Views
The angreal magnifies the power of the individual holding it, not that of the entire circle. - 12/11/2009 11:57:20 AM 1120 Views
Re: The angreal magnifies the power of the individual holding it, not that of the entire circle. - 12/11/2009 12:37:46 PM 1018 Views
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Please elaborate... - 12/11/2009 02:42:17 PM 985 Views
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I do *NM* - 12/11/2009 09:05:56 PM 413 Views
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Re: Wrong place *ignore* - 27/12/2009 06:14:51 PM 958 Views
Re: Ever notice the "sa" in sa'angreal? - 12/11/2009 07:48:37 PM 1010 Views
You are missing two important points - 12/11/2009 05:09:35 PM 1207 Views
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Sidious' "One Power Dynamics" - 12/11/2009 08:10:41 PM 1477 Views
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Yes it's also been mentioned before in earlier books - 19/11/2009 12:51:51 AM 876 Views
Re: Yes it's also been mentioned before in earlier books - 27/12/2009 06:37:47 PM 899 Views

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