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For the last time! fionwe1987 Send a noteboard - 07/01/2010 09:50:16 PM
6 Aes Sedai cannot defeat Guare Amalasan or Yurian Stonebow. Those Aes Sedai were likely stronger than today's sisters, but even if they weren't, that means you need at least 7 Aes Sedai to defeat a man of that strength. Elayne's maximum potential is about 2.5 average sisters, going by the Amys plus Melaine comparison, but even if she's as strong as 3 sisters, it means she would have to link with 4 more sisters to have a chance of defeating Taim.


How do you know that it was an issue of strength alone? What about that fact that Amalasan was fighting to kill whereas the Aes Sedai were trying to capture? What about the advantage men enjoy that they can sense women channeling? How about the fact that you seemingly need to be much stronger to shield a male?

I'm not for a moment suggesting that Elayne's circle could shield all three men if they were holding saidin. But that hardly means they do not match the strength of these men. With the advantages of the circle, Elayne may well have been able to cause a lot more destruction than Taim and his cronies.
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Is Rand logical when he estimates female danger? Sidious - 07/01/2010 03:34:05 PM 1544 Views
Basically you have to be ready for anything! darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 03:45:31 PM 899 Views
Yep. Send Daigian in Linked with 12 of her buddies (one of whom is holding an angreal) & hes screwed RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 05:19:03 PM 1121 Views
Miscommunication seems to be a major theme of the series *NM* darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 07:17:16 PM 450 Views
As well as missed opportunities. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 09:27:56 PM 819 Views
yes, the Amyrlin story line could have been wrapped up much earlier! darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 09:55:30 PM 940 Views
Yeah, I really wish his vision had been pushed. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 10:16:15 PM 759 Views
ROFL darius_sedai - 08/01/2010 01:01:03 AM 724 Views
Re: ROFL RugbyPlayingAshaman - 08/01/2010 02:43:50 PM 774 Views
For a major theme, it sure is surprising Wotmaniac Reborn - 08/01/2010 04:10:22 AM 824 Views
really? miscommunication seems to be woven into just about every sentence darius_sedai - 08/01/2010 04:53:48 AM 744 Views
Re: really? miscommunication seems to be woven into just about every sentence Wotmaniac Reborn - 08/01/2010 04:10:04 PM 847 Views
Re: Is Rand logical when he estimates female danger? Datakim - 07/01/2010 03:48:14 PM 936 Views
Thanks for pointing to that Taim incident... its another proof... fionwe1987 - 07/01/2010 04:15:33 PM 911 Views
I always like to think that Egwene, Elayne and Aviendha Linked can match Rand. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 05:26:35 PM 817 Views
Those three... fionwe1987 - 07/01/2010 05:35:24 PM 787 Views
I think this is probably close darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 07:19:40 PM 945 Views
Sidious - 07/01/2010 08:51:15 PM 961 Views
HA! fionwe1987 - 07/01/2010 09:01:14 PM 905 Views
Re: HA! Sidious - 08/01/2010 11:37:06 AM 939 Views
Re: HA! fionwe1987 - 08/01/2010 04:21:01 PM 749 Views
d'oh ... you've got him there darius_sedai - 08/01/2010 05:35:15 PM 685 Views
Hmm... Sidious - 09/01/2010 03:02:04 PM 737 Views
Re: Hmm... darius_sedai - 09/01/2010 04:47:05 PM 857 Views
Re: Hmm... Sidious - 09/01/2010 05:06:06 PM 849 Views
as we've discussed in the past, it's very loose darius_sedai - 09/01/2010 06:20:26 PM 949 Views
Re: as we've discussed in the past, it's very loose Sidious - 09/01/2010 07:32:57 PM 3071 Views
Re: as we've discussed in the past, it's very loose darius_sedai - 09/01/2010 09:05:01 PM 934 Views
Re: as we've discussed in the past, it's very loose Sidious - 09/01/2010 09:15:32 PM 1077 Views
Re: as we've discussed in the past, it's very loose darius_sedai - 10/01/2010 02:06:09 AM 882 Views
There are issues, of course! fionwe1987 - 09/01/2010 06:17:08 PM 1046 Views
Re: There are issues, of course! Sidious - 09/01/2010 07:18:03 PM 1016 Views
I think I fall in between you guys darius_sedai - 09/01/2010 08:46:58 PM 943 Views
Getting tired of this merry go round, but here we go again... Shannow - 07/01/2010 09:08:59 PM 846 Views
Don't get on it! It causes insanity. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 09:29:15 PM 752 Views
d'uh darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 09:57:30 PM 842 Views
For the last time! fionwe1987 - 07/01/2010 09:50:16 PM 1022 Views
it's about EFFECTIVE strength Fionwe (jk) darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 10:05:48 PM 711 Views
I don't think they were that bad back then, but still... fionwe1987 - 07/01/2010 10:11:46 PM 824 Views
and he's gone out of his way IMO to show that it's a stupid darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 10:41:03 PM 890 Views
Re: I don't think they were that bad back then, but still... Sidious - 08/01/2010 11:38:48 AM 739 Views
I'd actually go with Elayne in matters of battle. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 08/01/2010 02:47:34 PM 856 Views
Wow, I wasn't expecting that Sidious - 08/01/2010 02:55:53 PM 929 Views
I'm not too impressed with the Forsaken so far. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 08/01/2010 03:30:43 PM 746 Views
I'm tempted to go with Taim too, but... fionwe1987 - 08/01/2010 04:25:52 PM 803 Views
If Elayne had wanted Taim dead, he and his minions would have been dead darius_sedai - 08/01/2010 05:41:29 PM 863 Views
The reverse would be true too, though... fionwe1987 - 08/01/2010 05:50:02 PM 759 Views
But she just heard Taim say to basically stand down darius_sedai - 08/01/2010 06:05:43 PM 811 Views
But... fionwe1987 - 08/01/2010 08:53:11 PM 1008 Views
Ah but Elayne also knew they knew Rand wouldn't allow it darius_sedai - 08/01/2010 10:40:45 PM 852 Views
That whole lack of communication thing made my eye twitch. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 08/01/2010 11:00:25 PM 874 Views
or just painfully stupid! darius_sedai - 08/01/2010 11:10:37 PM 704 Views
Re: But... Heiko - 10/01/2010 03:20:12 AM 877 Views
Re: Is Rand logical when he estimates female danger? RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 05:13:48 PM 752 Views
I think he is illogical towards all danger, regardless of gender. amirebram - 07/01/2010 06:39:37 PM 759 Views
Do fat kids run marathons? No. And no Rand isn't logical when he estimates female danger. *NM* callandor1000 - 07/01/2010 06:44:08 PM 497 Views
It's all kind of irrelevant. Cannoli - 08/01/2010 11:28:46 PM 1019 Views
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