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For the last time! fionwe1987 Send a noteboard - 07/01/2010 09:50:16 PM
6 Aes Sedai cannot defeat Guare Amalasan or Yurian Stonebow. Those Aes Sedai were likely stronger than today's sisters, but even if they weren't, that means you need at least 7 Aes Sedai to defeat a man of that strength. Elayne's maximum potential is about 2.5 average sisters, going by the Amys plus Melaine comparison, but even if she's as strong as 3 sisters, it means she would have to link with 4 more sisters to have a chance of defeating Taim.


How do you know that it was an issue of strength alone? What about that fact that Amalasan was fighting to kill whereas the Aes Sedai were trying to capture? What about the advantage men enjoy that they can sense women channeling? How about the fact that you seemingly need to be much stronger to shield a male?

I'm not for a moment suggesting that Elayne's circle could shield all three men if they were holding saidin. But that hardly means they do not match the strength of these men. With the advantages of the circle, Elayne may well have been able to cause a lot more destruction than Taim and his cronies.
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Is Rand logical when he estimates female danger? Sidious - 07/01/2010 03:34:05 PM 1531 Views
Basically you have to be ready for anything! darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 03:45:31 PM 885 Views
Yep. Send Daigian in Linked with 12 of her buddies (one of whom is holding an angreal) & hes screwed RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 05:19:03 PM 1106 Views
Miscommunication seems to be a major theme of the series *NM* darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 07:17:16 PM 441 Views
As well as missed opportunities. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 09:27:56 PM 806 Views
yes, the Amyrlin story line could have been wrapped up much earlier! darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 09:55:30 PM 923 Views
Yeah, I really wish his vision had been pushed. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 10:16:15 PM 750 Views
ROFL darius_sedai - 08/01/2010 01:01:03 AM 710 Views
Re: ROFL RugbyPlayingAshaman - 08/01/2010 02:43:50 PM 760 Views
For a major theme, it sure is surprising Wotmaniac Reborn - 08/01/2010 04:10:22 AM 806 Views
really? miscommunication seems to be woven into just about every sentence darius_sedai - 08/01/2010 04:53:48 AM 728 Views
Re: really? miscommunication seems to be woven into just about every sentence Wotmaniac Reborn - 08/01/2010 04:10:04 PM 827 Views
Re: Is Rand logical when he estimates female danger? Datakim - 07/01/2010 03:48:14 PM 920 Views
Thanks for pointing to that Taim incident... its another proof... fionwe1987 - 07/01/2010 04:15:33 PM 896 Views
I always like to think that Egwene, Elayne and Aviendha Linked can match Rand. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 05:26:35 PM 806 Views
Those three... fionwe1987 - 07/01/2010 05:35:24 PM 774 Views
I think this is probably close darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 07:19:40 PM 929 Views
Sidious - 07/01/2010 08:51:15 PM 949 Views
HA! fionwe1987 - 07/01/2010 09:01:14 PM 891 Views
Re: HA! Sidious - 08/01/2010 11:37:06 AM 921 Views
Re: HA! fionwe1987 - 08/01/2010 04:21:01 PM 738 Views
d'oh ... you've got him there darius_sedai - 08/01/2010 05:35:15 PM 672 Views
Hmm... Sidious - 09/01/2010 03:02:04 PM 721 Views
Re: Hmm... darius_sedai - 09/01/2010 04:47:05 PM 843 Views
Re: Hmm... Sidious - 09/01/2010 05:06:06 PM 834 Views
as we've discussed in the past, it's very loose darius_sedai - 09/01/2010 06:20:26 PM 934 Views
Re: as we've discussed in the past, it's very loose Sidious - 09/01/2010 07:32:57 PM 3058 Views
Re: as we've discussed in the past, it's very loose darius_sedai - 09/01/2010 09:05:01 PM 921 Views
Re: as we've discussed in the past, it's very loose Sidious - 09/01/2010 09:15:32 PM 1065 Views
Re: as we've discussed in the past, it's very loose darius_sedai - 10/01/2010 02:06:09 AM 867 Views
There are issues, of course! fionwe1987 - 09/01/2010 06:17:08 PM 1030 Views
Re: There are issues, of course! Sidious - 09/01/2010 07:18:03 PM 1001 Views
I think I fall in between you guys darius_sedai - 09/01/2010 08:46:58 PM 928 Views
Getting tired of this merry go round, but here we go again... Shannow - 07/01/2010 09:08:59 PM 824 Views
Don't get on it! It causes insanity. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 09:29:15 PM 739 Views
d'uh darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 09:57:30 PM 830 Views
For the last time! fionwe1987 - 07/01/2010 09:50:16 PM 1005 Views
it's about EFFECTIVE strength Fionwe (jk) darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 10:05:48 PM 701 Views
I don't think they were that bad back then, but still... fionwe1987 - 07/01/2010 10:11:46 PM 810 Views
and he's gone out of his way IMO to show that it's a stupid darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 10:41:03 PM 873 Views
Re: I don't think they were that bad back then, but still... Sidious - 08/01/2010 11:38:48 AM 728 Views
I'd actually go with Elayne in matters of battle. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 08/01/2010 02:47:34 PM 840 Views
Wow, I wasn't expecting that Sidious - 08/01/2010 02:55:53 PM 915 Views
I'm not too impressed with the Forsaken so far. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 08/01/2010 03:30:43 PM 732 Views
I'm tempted to go with Taim too, but... fionwe1987 - 08/01/2010 04:25:52 PM 789 Views
If Elayne had wanted Taim dead, he and his minions would have been dead darius_sedai - 08/01/2010 05:41:29 PM 843 Views
The reverse would be true too, though... fionwe1987 - 08/01/2010 05:50:02 PM 742 Views
But she just heard Taim say to basically stand down darius_sedai - 08/01/2010 06:05:43 PM 797 Views
But... fionwe1987 - 08/01/2010 08:53:11 PM 992 Views
Ah but Elayne also knew they knew Rand wouldn't allow it darius_sedai - 08/01/2010 10:40:45 PM 838 Views
That whole lack of communication thing made my eye twitch. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 08/01/2010 11:00:25 PM 859 Views
or just painfully stupid! darius_sedai - 08/01/2010 11:10:37 PM 689 Views
Re: But... Heiko - 10/01/2010 03:20:12 AM 860 Views
Re: Is Rand logical when he estimates female danger? RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 05:13:48 PM 739 Views
I think he is illogical towards all danger, regardless of gender. amirebram - 07/01/2010 06:39:37 PM 745 Views
Do fat kids run marathons? No. And no Rand isn't logical when he estimates female danger. *NM* callandor1000 - 07/01/2010 06:44:08 PM 488 Views
It's all kind of irrelevant. Cannoli - 08/01/2010 11:28:46 PM 1007 Views
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