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The point was that Graendal and Aran'gar aren't that close... Etzel Send a noteboard - 08/01/2010 03:37:06 PM
They used each other and nothing more! The alliance would only have lasted until one of them was finished with the other and then they would have killed them off.

From Graendal's own thoughts she's pretty sure the others didn't even know she and Sammael were "working together"


Because you argued that Graendal also told Sammael about her lair, so she would tell Aran'gar. However, Sammael was likely the exception, because they knoew each other very well from the War of Power.
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Semirhage's fate (Alive or Dead?) Sidious - 06/01/2010 12:10:26 PM 1712 Views
Like Graendal, she is dead... Etzel - 06/01/2010 12:19:23 PM 1178 Views
hasn't BSand said there will be another Graendal POV? darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 02:39:15 PM 1092 Views
Nope... Etzel - 06/01/2010 02:41:15 PM 1055 Views
You're reading a lot into that darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 02:53:47 PM 948 Views
Never happened in the series before... Etzel - 06/01/2010 03:24:40 PM 1021 Views
Re: Never happened in the series before... Lord Haart - 06/01/2010 03:27:04 PM 891 Views
They aren't dead. She is. *NM* Myrdhyn - 06/01/2010 03:32:00 PM 441 Views
As said, your second option is likely Etzel - 06/01/2010 03:36:12 PM 974 Views
aren't you the one who keeps arguing that Slayer must have killed Asmo darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 03:45:46 PM 965 Views
It seems... Etzel - 06/01/2010 03:55:45 PM 841 Views
perhaps, but it's "newly minted" in the Prologue darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 05:22:21 PM 1000 Views
According to Tellings of the Wheel Etzel - 06/01/2010 05:45:19 PM 1018 Views
*shrugs* darius_sedai - 08/01/2010 05:31:23 AM 857 Views
Probably enough to get some DF reports, sent out new spies to Rand, deal with some nobles, etc. *NM* Etzel - 08/01/2010 07:19:59 AM 447 Views
Or to Travel around and meet with the FS again darius_sedai - 08/01/2010 03:17:11 PM 881 Views
I doubt that Graendal would want or need a stronger alliance with Aran'gar... Etzel - 08/01/2010 03:40:12 PM 934 Views
That's a thin line of argument. darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 03:29:06 PM 815 Views
Possible, but very unlikely. *NM* Etzel - 06/01/2010 03:37:32 PM 552 Views
No... Crossroads of Twilight happened during the Cleansing (Winter's Heart) *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 06/01/2010 09:20:46 PM 505 Views
You misunderstand my comment darius_sedai - 08/01/2010 05:30:17 AM 1517 Views
Well, it can't be 100% concurrent... Fanatic-Templar - 08/01/2010 06:33:47 AM 965 Views
We saw Perrin and Mat darius_sedai - 08/01/2010 03:15:53 PM 950 Views
It happened partially Sidious - 06/01/2010 03:58:58 PM 872 Views
I doubt... Etzel - 06/01/2010 04:12:53 PM 887 Views
Yet Sammael knew even before he had her convinced he would be NB darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 05:46:03 PM 871 Views
Both were old comrades, though. *NM* Etzel - 06/01/2010 05:49:11 PM 978 Views
Old comrades? darius_sedai - 08/01/2010 05:41:18 AM 870 Views
Yub, for Forsaken they were pretty close; closer than Graendal and Aran'gar. *NM* Etzel - 08/01/2010 07:18:01 AM 544 Views
I disagree that Graendal and Sammael were "chummy" darius_sedai - 08/01/2010 03:19:48 PM 869 Views
The point was that Graendal and Aran'gar aren't that close... Etzel - 08/01/2010 03:37:06 PM 972 Views
I agree. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 06/01/2010 06:57:35 PM 935 Views
Re: hasn't BSand said there will be another Graendal POV? Datakim - 06/01/2010 04:33:50 PM 937 Views
I wonder if the DO could ressurect her since it was his power that killed her? *NM* lankyevilme - 06/01/2010 02:13:41 PM 478 Views
I doubt it personally darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 02:40:16 PM 896 Views
Here is what BS said Etzel - 06/01/2010 03:48:03 PM 1043 Views
Do you think ... Shishka - 06/01/2010 05:09:17 PM 832 Views
Good question Etzel - 06/01/2010 05:39:22 PM 916 Views
Re: Do you think ... Datakim - 06/01/2010 06:46:07 PM 857 Views
I think it was actually a combination of 7, 9 and 10 darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 02:49:53 PM 957 Views
Very inventive, but.... Semirhage is Toast with a Capital T. *NM* Lord Haart - 06/01/2010 03:24:36 PM 481 Views
Dead. *NM* AgentOrange - 06/01/2010 03:58:47 PM 616 Views
Graendal and Semirhage are D...E...A...D dead *NM* Ryan - 06/01/2010 05:53:57 PM 432 Views
I do like number 4 *NM* Gher - 06/01/2010 06:44:24 PM 448 Views
Dead. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 06/01/2010 07:14:10 PM 959 Views
I also like Number 4 Fanatic-Templar - 06/01/2010 09:12:09 PM 960 Views
Re: Semirhage's fate (Alive or Dead?) MissKoalaVB - 07/01/2010 03:33:38 AM 840 Views
Re: Semirhage's fate (Alive or Dead?) Sidious - 07/01/2010 03:23:43 PM 887 Views
wait you were joking? darius_sedai - 08/01/2010 05:45:07 AM 807 Views
He should have counted responses... Fanatic-Templar - 08/01/2010 06:34:53 AM 846 Views
*NM* Sidious - 08/01/2010 11:42:26 AM 435 Views
I give you credit for the imagination, but the books will loose all integrity if they went that far. *NM* amirebram - 07/01/2010 06:56:37 PM 432 Views
A WOMAN DEAD AND GONE! *NM* Wotmaniac Reborn - 08/01/2010 04:15:31 AM 441 Views
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