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The point was that Graendal and Aran'gar aren't that close... Etzel Send a noteboard - 08/01/2010 03:37:06 PM
They used each other and nothing more! The alliance would only have lasted until one of them was finished with the other and then they would have killed them off.

From Graendal's own thoughts she's pretty sure the others didn't even know she and Sammael were "working together"


Because you argued that Graendal also told Sammael about her lair, so she would tell Aran'gar. However, Sammael was likely the exception, because they knoew each other very well from the War of Power.
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Semirhage's fate (Alive or Dead?) Sidious - 06/01/2010 12:10:26 PM 1738 Views
Like Graendal, she is dead... Etzel - 06/01/2010 12:19:23 PM 1211 Views
hasn't BSand said there will be another Graendal POV? darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 02:39:15 PM 1118 Views
Nope... Etzel - 06/01/2010 02:41:15 PM 1080 Views
You're reading a lot into that darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 02:53:47 PM 979 Views
Never happened in the series before... Etzel - 06/01/2010 03:24:40 PM 1048 Views
Re: Never happened in the series before... Lord Haart - 06/01/2010 03:27:04 PM 924 Views
They aren't dead. She is. *NM* Myrdhyn - 06/01/2010 03:32:00 PM 459 Views
As said, your second option is likely Etzel - 06/01/2010 03:36:12 PM 1000 Views
aren't you the one who keeps arguing that Slayer must have killed Asmo darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 03:45:46 PM 993 Views
It seems... Etzel - 06/01/2010 03:55:45 PM 870 Views
perhaps, but it's "newly minted" in the Prologue darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 05:22:21 PM 1023 Views
According to Tellings of the Wheel Etzel - 06/01/2010 05:45:19 PM 1046 Views
*shrugs* darius_sedai - 08/01/2010 05:31:23 AM 879 Views
Probably enough to get some DF reports, sent out new spies to Rand, deal with some nobles, etc. *NM* Etzel - 08/01/2010 07:19:59 AM 463 Views
Or to Travel around and meet with the FS again darius_sedai - 08/01/2010 03:17:11 PM 907 Views
I doubt that Graendal would want or need a stronger alliance with Aran'gar... Etzel - 08/01/2010 03:40:12 PM 965 Views
That's a thin line of argument. darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 03:29:06 PM 850 Views
Possible, but very unlikely. *NM* Etzel - 06/01/2010 03:37:32 PM 572 Views
No... Crossroads of Twilight happened during the Cleansing (Winter's Heart) *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 06/01/2010 09:20:46 PM 521 Views
You misunderstand my comment darius_sedai - 08/01/2010 05:30:17 AM 1548 Views
Well, it can't be 100% concurrent... Fanatic-Templar - 08/01/2010 06:33:47 AM 994 Views
We saw Perrin and Mat darius_sedai - 08/01/2010 03:15:53 PM 983 Views
It happened partially Sidious - 06/01/2010 03:58:58 PM 907 Views
I doubt... Etzel - 06/01/2010 04:12:53 PM 920 Views
Yet Sammael knew even before he had her convinced he would be NB darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 05:46:03 PM 897 Views
Both were old comrades, though. *NM* Etzel - 06/01/2010 05:49:11 PM 1005 Views
Old comrades? darius_sedai - 08/01/2010 05:41:18 AM 903 Views
Yub, for Forsaken they were pretty close; closer than Graendal and Aran'gar. *NM* Etzel - 08/01/2010 07:18:01 AM 563 Views
I disagree that Graendal and Sammael were "chummy" darius_sedai - 08/01/2010 03:19:48 PM 904 Views
The point was that Graendal and Aran'gar aren't that close... Etzel - 08/01/2010 03:37:06 PM 1002 Views
I agree. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 06/01/2010 06:57:35 PM 962 Views
Re: hasn't BSand said there will be another Graendal POV? Datakim - 06/01/2010 04:33:50 PM 964 Views
I wonder if the DO could ressurect her since it was his power that killed her? *NM* lankyevilme - 06/01/2010 02:13:41 PM 497 Views
I doubt it personally darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 02:40:16 PM 929 Views
Here is what BS said Etzel - 06/01/2010 03:48:03 PM 1070 Views
Do you think ... Shishka - 06/01/2010 05:09:17 PM 865 Views
Good question Etzel - 06/01/2010 05:39:22 PM 945 Views
Re: Do you think ... Datakim - 06/01/2010 06:46:07 PM 886 Views
I think it was actually a combination of 7, 9 and 10 darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 02:49:53 PM 984 Views
Very inventive, but.... Semirhage is Toast with a Capital T. *NM* Lord Haart - 06/01/2010 03:24:36 PM 498 Views
Dead. *NM* AgentOrange - 06/01/2010 03:58:47 PM 634 Views
Graendal and Semirhage are D...E...A...D dead *NM* Ryan - 06/01/2010 05:53:57 PM 448 Views
I do like number 4 *NM* Gher - 06/01/2010 06:44:24 PM 463 Views
Dead. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 06/01/2010 07:14:10 PM 986 Views
I also like Number 4 Fanatic-Templar - 06/01/2010 09:12:09 PM 988 Views
Re: Semirhage's fate (Alive or Dead?) MissKoalaVB - 07/01/2010 03:33:38 AM 868 Views
Re: Semirhage's fate (Alive or Dead?) Sidious - 07/01/2010 03:23:43 PM 914 Views
wait you were joking? darius_sedai - 08/01/2010 05:45:07 AM 838 Views
He should have counted responses... Fanatic-Templar - 08/01/2010 06:34:53 AM 876 Views
*NM* Sidious - 08/01/2010 11:42:26 AM 453 Views
I give you credit for the imagination, but the books will loose all integrity if they went that far. *NM* amirebram - 07/01/2010 06:56:37 PM 451 Views
A WOMAN DEAD AND GONE! *NM* Wotmaniac Reborn - 08/01/2010 04:15:31 AM 462 Views
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