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Re: But... Heiko Send a noteboard - 10/01/2010 03:20:12 AM

I agree they could just as easily have killed her, but they gave up the advantage when they didn't attack and when Taim sat there and told them not to be stupid, there are only 2 of them (not knowing Renaile was a channeler). Overall this is a bad example of who is more skilled...

That advantage was never lost. They could have shot a deadly weave at the women any time, and Elayne wouldn't have known. She didn't even know if they were holding the power.

Elayne, however, did a foolish thing by not hiding her ability and that of the others. That way, they'd have held the same advantage.
I'm more interested in the Flinn-circle vs. Demandred and Verin-circle vs. Graendal ... obviously both of these battles were relatively evenly matched and the Forsaken should have destroyed the others with barely a thought...


With Flinn, I think it goes to show that he is quite strong and skilled.

The Verin circle is one of the most important reasons why I think the Aes Sedai are not nearly as weak compared to the Forsaken as some others suggest.


Furthermore, Verin was Black Ajah and unrestricted in her weave research. She probably knew some really nasty, and previously unknown, weaves.
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Is Rand logical when he estimates female danger? Sidious - 07/01/2010 03:34:05 PM 1519 Views
Basically you have to be ready for anything! darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 03:45:31 PM 870 Views
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Miscommunication seems to be a major theme of the series *NM* darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 07:17:16 PM 435 Views
As well as missed opportunities. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 09:27:56 PM 797 Views
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Yeah, I really wish his vision had been pushed. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 10:16:15 PM 734 Views
ROFL darius_sedai - 08/01/2010 01:01:03 AM 696 Views
Re: ROFL RugbyPlayingAshaman - 08/01/2010 02:43:50 PM 746 Views
For a major theme, it sure is surprising Wotmaniac Reborn - 08/01/2010 04:10:22 AM 794 Views
really? miscommunication seems to be woven into just about every sentence darius_sedai - 08/01/2010 04:53:48 AM 719 Views
Re: really? miscommunication seems to be woven into just about every sentence Wotmaniac Reborn - 08/01/2010 04:10:04 PM 815 Views
Re: Is Rand logical when he estimates female danger? Datakim - 07/01/2010 03:48:14 PM 908 Views
Thanks for pointing to that Taim incident... its another proof... fionwe1987 - 07/01/2010 04:15:33 PM 877 Views
I always like to think that Egwene, Elayne and Aviendha Linked can match Rand. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 05:26:35 PM 791 Views
Those three... fionwe1987 - 07/01/2010 05:35:24 PM 764 Views
I think this is probably close darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 07:19:40 PM 918 Views
Sidious - 07/01/2010 08:51:15 PM 935 Views
HA! fionwe1987 - 07/01/2010 09:01:14 PM 880 Views
Re: HA! Sidious - 08/01/2010 11:37:06 AM 906 Views
Re: HA! fionwe1987 - 08/01/2010 04:21:01 PM 722 Views
d'oh ... you've got him there darius_sedai - 08/01/2010 05:35:15 PM 658 Views
Hmm... Sidious - 09/01/2010 03:02:04 PM 708 Views
Re: Hmm... darius_sedai - 09/01/2010 04:47:05 PM 826 Views
Re: Hmm... Sidious - 09/01/2010 05:06:06 PM 822 Views
as we've discussed in the past, it's very loose darius_sedai - 09/01/2010 06:20:26 PM 917 Views
Re: as we've discussed in the past, it's very loose Sidious - 09/01/2010 07:32:57 PM 3047 Views
Re: as we've discussed in the past, it's very loose darius_sedai - 09/01/2010 09:05:01 PM 906 Views
Re: as we've discussed in the past, it's very loose Sidious - 09/01/2010 09:15:32 PM 1050 Views
Re: as we've discussed in the past, it's very loose darius_sedai - 10/01/2010 02:06:09 AM 861 Views
There are issues, of course! fionwe1987 - 09/01/2010 06:17:08 PM 1023 Views
Re: There are issues, of course! Sidious - 09/01/2010 07:18:03 PM 988 Views
I think I fall in between you guys darius_sedai - 09/01/2010 08:46:58 PM 912 Views
Getting tired of this merry go round, but here we go again... Shannow - 07/01/2010 09:08:59 PM 810 Views
Don't get on it! It causes insanity. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 09:29:15 PM 729 Views
d'uh darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 09:57:30 PM 819 Views
For the last time! fionwe1987 - 07/01/2010 09:50:16 PM 992 Views
it's about EFFECTIVE strength Fionwe (jk) darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 10:05:48 PM 689 Views
I don't think they were that bad back then, but still... fionwe1987 - 07/01/2010 10:11:46 PM 792 Views
and he's gone out of his way IMO to show that it's a stupid darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 10:41:03 PM 862 Views
Re: I don't think they were that bad back then, but still... Sidious - 08/01/2010 11:38:48 AM 715 Views
I'd actually go with Elayne in matters of battle. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 08/01/2010 02:47:34 PM 829 Views
Wow, I wasn't expecting that Sidious - 08/01/2010 02:55:53 PM 902 Views
I'm not too impressed with the Forsaken so far. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 08/01/2010 03:30:43 PM 717 Views
I'm tempted to go with Taim too, but... fionwe1987 - 08/01/2010 04:25:52 PM 774 Views
If Elayne had wanted Taim dead, he and his minions would have been dead darius_sedai - 08/01/2010 05:41:29 PM 827 Views
The reverse would be true too, though... fionwe1987 - 08/01/2010 05:50:02 PM 733 Views
But she just heard Taim say to basically stand down darius_sedai - 08/01/2010 06:05:43 PM 787 Views
But... fionwe1987 - 08/01/2010 08:53:11 PM 977 Views
Ah but Elayne also knew they knew Rand wouldn't allow it darius_sedai - 08/01/2010 10:40:45 PM 825 Views
That whole lack of communication thing made my eye twitch. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 08/01/2010 11:00:25 PM 847 Views
or just painfully stupid! darius_sedai - 08/01/2010 11:10:37 PM 675 Views
Re: But... Heiko - 10/01/2010 03:20:12 AM 851 Views
Re: Is Rand logical when he estimates female danger? RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 05:13:48 PM 727 Views
I think he is illogical towards all danger, regardless of gender. amirebram - 07/01/2010 06:39:37 PM 730 Views
Do fat kids run marathons? No. And no Rand isn't logical when he estimates female danger. *NM* callandor1000 - 07/01/2010 06:44:08 PM 483 Views
It's all kind of irrelevant. Cannoli - 08/01/2010 11:28:46 PM 993 Views
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