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Actually, it's not about who stole it. It's about how Elza knew where it was AND amirebram Send a noteboard - 15/01/2010 05:53:08 PM
How she opened the trap which was supposed to be very tricky.

All Sorelia had to do was talk to SH and give the info to Elza. Information.
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A clue that Sorilea is a Dark Friend? darius_sedai - 13/01/2010 04:20:20 AM 3016 Views
Re: A clue that Sorilea is a Dark Friend? BlackAdder - 13/01/2010 04:46:01 AM 1519 Views
Re: A clue that Sorilea is a Dark Friend? darius_sedai - 13/01/2010 04:47:58 AM 1457 Views
I wondered at the phrasing of that passage ... Yondaime - 14/01/2010 03:41:36 AM 1290 Views
Heh, you ironically misspelled "spell" *NM* Gher - 14/01/2010 04:47:55 AM 741 Views
RJ was Aes Sedai to the core! darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 06:33:45 AM 1412 Views
It's funny, but I know very few women (none) IRL who act like AS, but RJ definitely fits their MO RugbyPlayingAshaman - 14/01/2010 05:00:00 PM 1282 Views
I don't think I've ever heard a woman actually "sniff" at someone either darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 05:09:07 PM 1287 Views
I was under the impression that SH got the Band DREWRULESWOT! - 14/01/2010 09:10:48 AM 1246 Views
I, too, have suspicions ... Yondaime - 13/01/2010 06:11:12 AM 1462 Views
I agree! darius_sedai - 13/01/2010 07:13:10 AM 1266 Views
I doubt that there is anything in the book .... Yondaime - 14/01/2010 02:58:47 AM 1215 Views
Re: I doubt that there is anything in the book .... darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 06:44:39 AM 1099 Views
Wow, you should add a spoiler alert to your thread. amirebram - 13/01/2010 06:36:45 AM 1310 Views
Why couldn't have Elza got them? brett014 - 13/01/2010 06:42:03 AM 1367 Views
Re: Didn't Shadar Haran free Semirage? BlackAdder - 13/01/2010 06:44:56 AM 1429 Views
IMO Bair is also a suspect darius_sedai - 13/01/2010 07:18:15 AM 1230 Views
SH has all kinds of strange powers NaClH2O - 14/01/2010 05:52:06 PM 1055 Views
Yeah, SH is a wildcard BlackAdder - 15/01/2010 02:20:52 AM 1184 Views
Re: Why couldn't have Elza got them? amirebram - 13/01/2010 10:12:07 PM 1132 Views
It was brought up a while back in one of the earlier discussion threads BlackAdder - 13/01/2010 06:47:33 AM 1254 Views
The whole forum is full of spoilers *NM* darius_sedai - 13/01/2010 07:11:38 AM 688 Views
Be more careful. Spoilers are freely allowed now. *NM* Kronin al'Sulc - 13/01/2010 04:05:27 PM 683 Views
He didn't mean it as a tGS spoiler BlackAdder - 13/01/2010 04:09:17 PM 1165 Views
Exactly. I have this thing with theories ... amirebram - 13/01/2010 10:16:02 PM 1180 Views
then how do you read the forums at all? darius_sedai - 13/01/2010 11:20:54 PM 1163 Views
With caution. amirebram - 14/01/2010 07:41:39 PM 1223 Views
I'm kind of the opposite I guess darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 08:50:36 PM 1190 Views
My gut feeling tells that Sorilea isn't a DF Etzel - 13/01/2010 11:24:33 AM 1407 Views
My gut agrees with your gut. *NM* Shishka - 13/01/2010 01:31:08 PM 585 Views
Great guts think alike! *NM* Etzel - 13/01/2010 03:06:29 PM 572 Views
And fool guts, seldom differ! *NM* Insomdeon - 13/01/2010 05:10:41 PM 632 Views
My gut would have gotten me killed in WOT amirebram - 13/01/2010 10:18:15 PM 1162 Views
Haha I love how the DFs are coming from all over the place! *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 14/01/2010 04:57:19 PM 652 Views
Me neither Sidious - 14/01/2010 08:30:27 PM 1070 Views
I don't think so Sidious - 13/01/2010 06:02:40 PM 1229 Views
perhaps, but Semirhage is also in disgrace darius_sedai - 13/01/2010 06:53:04 PM 1159 Views
Actually it was very much like a DF amirebram - 13/01/2010 10:21:46 PM 1330 Views
I don't buy it Sidious - 14/01/2010 08:29:05 PM 1061 Views
the thread started by pointing out Verin implies Sorilea may not be on the same side... darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 09:26:51 PM 1232 Views
Moiraine said as much to Egwene long before that Sidious - 15/01/2010 11:07:20 AM 1206 Views
we'll just have to RAFO darius_sedai - 15/01/2010 04:13:17 PM 1056 Views
Actually, it's not about who stole it. It's about how Elza knew where it was AND amirebram - 15/01/2010 05:53:08 PM 1176 Views
Not quite, IMO BlackAdder - 13/01/2010 11:53:46 PM 1197 Views
and Verin told us that you could betray the FS if you could justify it darius_sedai - 13/01/2010 11:55:32 PM 1250 Views
Exactly BlackAdder - 13/01/2010 11:58:46 PM 1177 Views
Re: A clue that Sorilea is a Dark Friend? Gerbeaud - 13/01/2010 09:05:19 PM 1046 Views
Elza already had the DB when she freed Semirhage from captivity darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 12:24:00 AM 1214 Views
Sorilea never saw the wards unraveled. And I'm pretty sure they were inverted. fionwe1987 - 14/01/2010 12:44:58 AM 1124 Views
inverted yes, but she was standing right there when Cadsuane unwove them darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 12:47:26 AM 1102 Views
As Sorilea closed the door behind the three of them, Cadsuane disarmed the box's traps. fionwe1987 - 14/01/2010 03:27:04 AM 1195 Views
Re: As Sorilea closed the door behind the three of them, Cadsuane disarmed the box's traps. darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 06:43:16 AM 1140 Views
Did you see what you wrote? fionwe1987 - 14/01/2010 03:12:58 PM 1205 Views
The point was that Sorilea knew two key pieces of information from that moment darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 03:38:27 PM 1079 Views
She knew only one, and that was known to Bair too... fionwe1987 - 14/01/2010 05:10:58 PM 1154 Views
Re: She knew only one, and that was known to Bair too... darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 05:29:39 PM 1171 Views
How do you know Caddy embraced the source only then? fionwe1987 - 14/01/2010 07:35:00 PM 1020 Views
so you contend that she was walking around holding the Source the whole time? darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 08:52:10 PM 1325 Views
Very possible. *NM* fionwe1987 - 14/01/2010 09:14:21 PM 506 Views
Bair is at least as strong a suspect darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 09:17:27 PM 1172 Views
I don't think Brandon's statement support your theory Sidious - 14/01/2010 08:34:21 PM 970 Views
That's a bit of a leap. darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 08:55:36 PM 855 Views
Re: I don't think Brandon's statement support your theory ajah - 17/01/2010 10:03:13 AM 1409 Views
Re: Elza already had the DB when she freed Semirhage from captivity Gerbeaud - 14/01/2010 02:42:47 AM 1209 Views
I think Bsand or RJ stated that Shaidar Haran could not do that himself, which is why he needed Elza darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 06:47:04 AM 1153 Views
I disagree that Verin would have tried to create suspicion or discord. Gher - 14/01/2010 03:16:32 AM 1221 Views
Yet Verin herself tells us that she did things for the Shadow... darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 06:51:39 AM 1118 Views
Sure Gher - 14/01/2010 05:18:56 PM 1119 Views
certainly her intentions were to be one of the good guys darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 05:40:26 PM 1035 Views
I agree. Gher - 14/01/2010 05:53:58 PM 1082 Views
this scene does happen before she is "sure" of Cadsuane darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 06:07:19 PM 1009 Views
Alright. Gher - 14/01/2010 06:17:18 PM 1181 Views
This would be a great development. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 14/01/2010 04:55:29 PM 1159 Views
that's exactly the type of foreshadowing I would expect kcf - 14/01/2010 06:48:25 PM 1208 Views
IMO either she or Bair are a DF darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 06:58:57 PM 1229 Views
this is pure RJ kcf - 14/01/2010 07:07:09 PM 1439 Views
True ... my personal fav is "if she's not BA she's the next thing to it" darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 09:01:05 PM 1147 Views
Have we ever seen two different races of darkfriends working together? Sidious - 14/01/2010 08:46:48 PM 1103 Views
yes - Suroth and Liandrin *NM* kcf - 14/01/2010 08:49:16 PM 830 Views
Milli/Shiane, Carridin, Falion and Old Cully were all in cahoots at various points darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 08:58:40 PM 1537 Views
Re: Milli/Shiane, Carridin, Falion and Old Cully were all in cahoots at various points Sidious - 15/01/2010 11:08:13 AM 8312 Views
and then SH shows up out of the goodness of his own heart? darius_sedai - 15/01/2010 04:14:42 PM 1055 Views
Re: and then SH shows up out of the goodness of his own heart? Sidious - 16/01/2010 05:09:17 PM 1154 Views
I think they were told via a DF in the group that she had been broken darius_sedai - 16/01/2010 06:11:01 PM 1129 Views
Yes, Kadere and that Aiel chick. DREWRULESWOT! - 15/01/2010 12:15:42 AM 1023 Views
Re: A clue that Sorilea is a Dark Friend? ajah - 17/01/2010 10:07:11 AM 1210 Views
I wish it were so, but one of the FAQ's destroys this clue Lord Haart - 17/01/2010 03:01:47 PM 1158 Views
there's been a lot of discussion about the BSand quote you are refering too darius_sedai - 17/01/2010 05:07:04 PM 1191 Views
Re: there's been a lot of discussion about the BSand quote you are refering too Lord Haart - 17/01/2010 05:28:08 PM 1136 Views
Re: there's been a lot of discussion about the BSand quote you are refering too darius_sedai - 17/01/2010 05:34:58 PM 1148 Views
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