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The thing is, most of the people I try to think of didn't really have a 'cause' ... Yondaime Send a noteboard - 23/01/2010 11:34:42 PM
They just seemed to react to whatever situation they were put in. Thom, for example. He's a great character and an awesome guy, but you can't really argue that he has had a 'purpose' that he has been working for (besides saving Moraine :) ). Same thing for Faile, and Nyneave for example. Neither of them has really had a 'higher calling' that they have been working to fulfill. Nyneave did a little bit during The Gathering Storm, while she tried to help Rand, but mostly she's worked on numerous small things.

Cadsuane, Moraine, and Verin all had higher purposes. I don't really count Cadsuane's and Verin's work as that great, however. I'm sure Cadsuane was working on something important before she started up with Rand, but from what I've seen of her mission to teach Rand humanity, I've seen almost no sacrifice on her part. Largely because she wouldn't rather be doing anything else; it wasn't a 'sacrifice' to take on Rand, she was doing it because that's what she enjoys doing. As for Verin, I empathize with her a lot. But from what I've read and gathered about how she ended up in that situation in the first place, it was largely her own fault. She ended up a Darkfriend because of the choices she made, but she tried to make the most of a bad situation. Major kudos to her, but she isn't the most dedicated WOT character.

I respect Moraine's devotion to her Purpose quite a bit; she faced Black Ajah, gave up chances to progress in Tar Valon, and eventually died (ish) for her Cause. She Sacrificed quite a bit. However, I never really empathized with her that well. I always felt like her 'cause' was more to the mission itself than the results. I always had the impression that it was more important to her that she complete her goal than it was for people to be benefited from the results of that goal. I don't think I'm saying this very clearly, but then again, I'm one of the few people that doesn't really like Moraine. However, I can't argue that her devotion, whether it was just to the mission or to actually help the world, far exceeds most other WOT characters.

One of my personal favorite, however, is probably Bashere. I can't help but respect the man. He was originally serving his Queen, but he was a greater good, and made decisions and took massive action in serving that good. He's aware that if he ever returns to Saldea, he'll probably get killed, but he gave that up to support Rand.
"Take the Gleeman!" Rand and Mat cried, throwing Thom to the Myrddraal. Then they ran away as fast as they could, and Thom's screams quickly faded into the distance along with any inconvenient feelings of guilt.
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Who is the bravest WOT character -- a soldier willing to sacrifice the most for their own cause? - 23/01/2010 08:47:47 AM 1843 Views
reply to my own survey - 23/01/2010 08:53:26 AM 1085 Views
I'm also very impressed by Ituralde. *NM* - 23/01/2010 09:04:48 AM 451 Views
Re: I'm also very impressed by Ituralde. - 23/01/2010 09:11:12 AM 995 Views
I'd say there are only two serious candidates, and one clear winner - 23/01/2010 09:12:01 AM 1072 Views
Re: I'd say there are only two serious candidates, and one clear winner - 23/01/2010 09:23:18 AM 1074 Views
..Supporting, I suppose. But just barely - 24/01/2010 09:27:13 AM 884 Views
Bornhold, leading the suicide charge against the Seanchan in TGH. - 23/01/2010 11:15:14 AM 1048 Views
I also approve of both your suggestions. *NM* - 23/01/2010 05:11:26 PM 435 Views
Yes, but you're incompetent - 25/01/2010 04:39:49 PM 838 Views
Cadsuane almost wet her self then ran out the door - 25/01/2010 04:53:13 PM 1233 Views
But Tuon wasn't threatened with death... - 25/01/2010 05:20:17 PM 736 Views
Rand? - 23/01/2010 05:08:48 PM 1017 Views
Rand and Verin - 23/01/2010 06:05:10 PM 942 Views
Not even really a contest. - 23/01/2010 06:25:26 PM 1043 Views
Incidentally... - 23/01/2010 10:00:02 PM 906 Views
Short answer: her life (and lifetime) - 24/01/2010 09:32:32 AM 1015 Views
Meh. - 24/01/2010 09:43:50 AM 878 Views
Psh, who joins the Aes Sedai with a cause? - 24/01/2010 09:55:29 AM 782 Views
How did she ever dodge the Black Ajah? - 24/01/2010 10:53:17 AM 837 Views
Bravery vs Sacrifice. - 24/01/2010 03:42:13 PM 946 Views
She was fighting the BA, but they couldn't know she existed - 25/01/2010 05:14:47 AM 935 Views
Not the point. - 24/01/2010 06:16:05 PM 763 Views
The thing is, most of the people I try to think of didn't really have a 'cause' ... - 23/01/2010 11:34:42 PM 988 Views
That's just it. That's really the Dragon Reborn myth in a nutshell, really. - 24/01/2010 09:38:12 AM 928 Views
That's an interesting comment. - 25/01/2010 04:20:15 AM 851 Views
Re: That's an interesting comment. - 25/01/2010 06:52:23 AM 724 Views
Egwene should be considered *NM* - 24/01/2010 04:50:38 PM 418 Views
I'm going with - 24/01/2010 06:06:57 AM 883 Views
A very sensible suggestion. I agree. *NM* - 24/01/2010 10:56:55 AM 371 Views
All the Forsaken except Mesaana and perhaps Moridin qualify. - 24/01/2010 03:49:17 PM 803 Views
Easy Winner... - 24/01/2010 10:36:14 PM 773 Views
Egwene - 25/01/2010 03:24:39 PM 733 Views
I'll have to disagree with this - 25/01/2010 04:37:43 PM 768 Views
I think that title is best suited to Elayne - 25/01/2010 05:01:03 PM 1103 Views
And she is just plain lucky too. And people tend to save her a$$. - 26/01/2010 10:10:33 PM 801 Views
I changed my mind - Tigraine Mantear is the bravest character I can think of. - 27/01/2010 06:01:32 PM 849 Views
Lews Therin and the hundred Companions - 25/01/2010 04:31:03 PM 904 Views
+1, this belongs on the list *NM* - 26/01/2010 11:27:00 AM 345 Views
I can't really credit Lews Therin with anything. - 27/01/2010 06:01:09 PM 738 Views
Why's he too powerful? - 28/01/2010 04:31:56 PM 734 Views
Tamra. Her speech after Gitara Moroso's death in NS was heartbreaking. - 26/01/2010 08:28:37 AM 738 Views
I'd say Galad - 29/01/2010 10:08:36 PM 674 Views
Nynaeve isn't the "most fearless", but she is the bravest - 24/02/2010 09:18:15 PM 919 Views

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