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Re: These are reasons why the SPLIT is necessary. I was not questioning that. fairfax Send a noteboard - 08/02/2010 05:47:36 AM
I misunderstood your original post. I agree so far the White Tower has been mostly useless. A White Tower that had not isolated itself from the real world, a White Tower that had not blinded itself with arrogance, or a White Tower that was willing not to be the center of attention would have been a help to Rand.


What I was asking is If the split is so good and necessary, why was it so important that Egwene win? What is the significance of her victory? Why should all these benefits of the Tower's benign neglect of Rand and the world cease, and what can Egwene actually provide that is significantly better than that same benign neglect?


Egwene obviously is acceptable to both the SAS and the White Tower AS, and can unite the Tower. Egwene will not allow the White Tower to be subjugated by Rand, but will allow the White Tower to be allied with Rand. Egwene has a much more adaptable mind (since she hasn't been indoctrinated by the Tower for 100 years) than the average Aes Sedai. Her castigating the Aes Sedai for trying to capture Rand, for trying to control Rand, and her idea of an embassy to Rand all suggest she is willing to help Rand.

A united White Tower adds strength in the number of channelers, a skill set the WO and windfinders don't have, an army with a Great General, and moral and diplomatic suasion in Randland. A White Tower willing to facilitate Rand's victory would be very helpful indeed. Randland would be much better off with benign neglect than a White Tower that is trying to "guide" Rand's victory

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So what was the point of the White Tower struggle? Cannoli - 07/02/2010 04:41:58 AM 2190 Views
The Tower will likely have some sort of "badass army" moment at the end... or, they'd BETTER beetnemesis - 07/02/2010 06:46:51 AM 941 Views
Re: The Tower will likely have some sort of "badass army" moment at the end... or, they'd BETTER lyringlas - 08/02/2010 05:43:52 PM 785 Views
I think the breaking of the tower was.... brett014 - 07/02/2010 07:55:48 AM 996 Views
Nice idea, that does seem to make sense in hindsight. Lord Haart - 07/02/2010 06:18:35 PM 787 Views
Yes, but that isn't the point. Cannoli - 08/02/2010 04:14:32 AM 910 Views
Re: Yes, but that isn't the point. brett014 - 08/02/2010 04:40:52 AM 890 Views
YES!! The SPLIT is important. So why is ENDING the split such a necessary goal? Cannoli - 08/02/2010 04:55:46 AM 817 Views
Re: YES!! The SPLIT is important. So why is ENDING the split such a necessary goal? brett014 - 08/02/2010 02:43:48 PM 903 Views
Re: YES!! The SPLIT is important. So why is ENDING the split such a necessary goal? Cannoli - 10/02/2010 09:49:59 PM 875 Views
Re: the wise ones. Lord Haart - 13/02/2010 10:21:55 AM 741 Views
They're not the biggest clan... fionwe1987 - 13/02/2010 02:20:38 PM 826 Views
Thank you Cannoli - 15/02/2010 01:24:05 PM 907 Views
No problem. *NM* fionwe1987 - 15/02/2010 09:05:11 PM 342 Views
Re: So what was the point of the White Tower struggle? Lord Haart - 07/02/2010 06:14:31 PM 983 Views
Re: The point was that Rand needed the division. Watcher - 07/02/2010 08:34:10 PM 880 Views
small disagreement darius_sedai - 07/02/2010 08:42:07 PM 820 Views
Re: small disagreement Cannoli - 08/02/2010 04:37:03 AM 752 Views
Egwene and Siuan have noted that there are plenty of the new Novices darius_sedai - 15/02/2010 04:22:35 PM 829 Views
Re: So what was the point of the White Tower struggle? Cannoli - 08/02/2010 04:34:52 AM 987 Views
Re: So what was the point of the White Tower struggle? Lord Haart - 08/02/2010 06:56:01 AM 822 Views
Such a resolution could have been a minor plot point like settling Tear or Cairhien Cannoli - 11/02/2010 11:53:41 PM 899 Views
Re: Such a resolution could have been a minor plot point like settling Tear or Cairhien Lord Haart - 13/02/2010 10:45:06 AM 960 Views
Re: So what was the point of the White Tower struggle? fairfax - 07/02/2010 10:42:27 PM 795 Views
These are reasons why the SPLIT is necessary. I was not questioning that. Cannoli - 08/02/2010 04:50:11 AM 984 Views
Re: These are reasons why the SPLIT is necessary. I was not questioning that. fairfax - 08/02/2010 05:47:36 AM 913 Views
Re: These are reasons why the SPLIT is necessary. I was not questioning that. orius - 13/02/2010 09:33:04 AM 728 Views
For that matter, what is the point of Andor? fionwe1987 - 08/02/2010 06:08:32 AM 855 Views
Re: For that matter, what is the point of Andor? brett014 - 08/02/2010 03:38:54 PM 829 Views
Especially true if Lord Haart - 08/02/2010 07:16:04 PM 748 Views
But Tar Valon is critical too. fionwe1987 - 08/02/2010 07:41:43 PM 800 Views
Really? Rurouni_Kenshin - 10/02/2010 05:30:02 AM 729 Views
Three women in a boat... fionwe1987 - 10/02/2010 09:12:41 PM 781 Views
Nothing is ever given as a location for that boat that I recall. Cannoli - 11/02/2010 11:54:39 PM 739 Views
So what? This is more or less true, but it has zero relevance to the issue of the Tower. Cannoli - 10/02/2010 10:13:56 PM 877 Views
Re: So what? This is more or less true, but it has zero relevance to the issue of the Tower. fionwe1987 - 12/02/2010 12:43:19 AM 895 Views
In this, I agree with Fionwe. Lord Haart - 13/02/2010 10:31:07 AM 722 Views
Re: So what? This is more or less true, but it has zero relevance to the issue of the Tower. Cannoli - 15/02/2010 02:23:57 PM 909 Views
Some good points, but I still disagree. Lord Haart - 15/02/2010 06:30:50 PM 779 Views
fionwe1987 - 15/02/2010 10:08:48 PM 874 Views
my thoughts Yunalesca - 09/02/2010 12:58:30 PM 1005 Views
Belief and order give strength. Gher - 10/02/2010 11:20:01 PM 813 Views
To pad the last few books in order to make Egwene the Amyrlin. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 17/02/2010 05:25:22 PM 773 Views
I can't say I agree with the use of the term "padding". Lord Haart - 17/02/2010 06:07:25 PM 750 Views
Re: I can't say I agree with the use of the term "padding". RugbyPlayingAshaman - 22/02/2010 11:05:44 PM 806 Views
To unite the Tower under competent leadership, of course. JasonD - 23/02/2010 04:55:02 AM 1252 Views
Does a main plotline HAVE to help defeat the DO? car'a'aman - 26/02/2010 04:11:30 PM 944 Views
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